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Electrically conductive thermal grease for TAS5630BDKD

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Russell May
Posted by Russell May
on May 03 2012 13:56 PM
Intellectual675 points

Ti has recommended Arctic Silver Céramique as a thermal grease but it is not electrically conductive, so the required electrical contact to the topside thermal tab is incidental. Are there electrically conductive thermal greases you can recommend? We anticipate using Chemtronics CW7100 (http://www.chemtronics.com/products/americas/TDS/Cw7100tds.pdf). If there is a preferred choice, I would like to know about it.

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  • Don Dapkus
    Posted by Don Dapkus
    on May 03 2012 17:15 PM
    Guru101625 points

    Hey, Russell,

    Steve is out of the office right now, but he'll be back next week to help you with this.

    -d2

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    Don Dapkus

    Audio Applications Engineering Manager

    Dallas, TX USA

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  • SteveCrump
    Posted by SteveCrump
    on May 07 2012 17:19 PM
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    Russell, proper application of Ceramique actually produces reasonable resistance and capacitance between a heatsink and a PowerPAD, in spite of the fact that the Ceramique data sheet says (as you accurately mention) "It is a pure electrical insulator, neither electrically conductive nor capacitive."  In application as TI recommends Ceramique is compressed to a thickness of 1 to 2 mils, and we expect resistance in the range of several ohms to several kilohms and capacitance of 150pF or more in that condition.  (Ceramique actually has some conductivity and dielectric constant, though both are small, and that plus the thinness of the layer and the likelihood of some slight metal-to-metal contact at surface irregularities are behind the resistance and capacitance results I noted above.)

    Please DO NOT use thermal compounds with high electrical conductivity or capacitance, UNLESS you can be certain the compound cannot migrate to the pins of the ICs to which it is applied.  Compounds with either of those characteristics can cause partial or near shorts, resistive or capacitive.  You do not want to have to troubleshoot that...  Also, please DO NOT use thermal compounds that are not mechanically stable under prolonged pressure and heat.  These can migrate out of the target contact area.  We have found that Ceramique eliminates these problems.

    I should add that we get fairly frequent inquiries from customers complaining of unstable operation and poor audio performance, when they have used truly non-conductive thermal pads (with low capacitance) or have even insulated the PowerPAD or have not grounded the heatsink.  This problem is almost always eliminated with the use of Ceramique or an equivalent between the PowerPAD and the heatsink, with a solid heatsink ground.  We have worked with a variety of thermal compounds to arrive at our conclusions.  Part of our experience certainly was the pain of discovering the problems and issues I described above.  We do not want you to suffer through any of that.

    Best regards,

    Steve.

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