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INA139: INA139 and TPS22959 switch

Part Number: INA139
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: INA282, , TPS22959

Hello Peter, 

we have discussed in a previous conversation about INA139  to sense 10A current and INA282 to sense 10mA to 50mA, as shown in the picture below.

I want have the possibility to disconnect this part of circuit, i mean INA282, INA139 and Rshunt  because it's absolutely required in my application to measure a third current of 70uA.  for information,  my application contain 3  consecutive phase of operation :

Phase 1 : sense 10A

Phase 2 : sense 50mA

Phase 3 : sense an ultra low current of 70uA. this current will be sense with an external module (NI9203) able to sense between +-20mA  (i don't know if i could find a current sensor from Texas Instruments able to mesure this current).

My big issue, is it possible to add  2 switch as shown in the picture below to disconnect this circuit when i am  mesuring the 70uA current. Already, I know that logically, it is not advisable to put anything, beause it will distort the measure. 

if i use the TPS22959 Switch to disconnect the circuit,  it have an ultra low Ron resistance so normaly he will not influence to much the measure. 

1 - Do you think that it could be possible to add this kind of CI with the current sensor. 

2 - Does it exist at Texas Instruments a circuit able to measure a current arroud 70uA. the issue is to be able to integre it in the same board. 

Thank you. 

  • Hello,

    We are looking at this circuit now and will be back with you shortly.

    Peter Iliya
    Current Sense Applications
  • Hey again,

    I don't see a problem using the switch with our parts; although, I am not sure if the TPS22959 will be able to withstand the 55A current peaks though. As for the rest of the circuit it seems you have gone with one of the options I proposed. Just make sure to reference the INA282.

    The limiting factor to measuring small currents accurately is the Ib (input bias current) mostly and while we have CSMs with Ib < 70uA, this can change based on your Vcm and Vdiff. I mention our lowest current measuring parts and and how Ib error presents itself here:
    e2e.ti.com/.../3593.how-vos-and-ib-affect-small-current-measurements

    But here are some TI solutions using other non-CSM devices to measure small current:

    www.ti.com/.../TIPD135
    www.ti.com/.../TIPD104
    http://www.ti.com/tool/TIPD156

    Peter Iliya
    Current Sense Applications
  • Hello Peter,

    Thank you for your response.

    Yes, i have verify the datasheet of the TPS22959, it do not support the 55A current peaks, i think it's max current is 17A.

    but, is there an other circuit at Texas Instruments which can have the role of a switch able to support this peak of current?

    Thank you!
  • Achref,

    I think it may be best to ask this question to the Power Switches and Power Path Protection Forum here:

    Best,

    Peter Iliya

    Current Sense Amplfiers

  • Hello Peter

    I have just a question concerning the solution with INA282 (sensing 10-50ma) and INA139 (sensing 10A), in parallel with the same Shunt resistor.
    How will react the INA282 when i am sensing 10A and the opposite how will react the INA139 when i am sensing 10-50ma?

    Thank you!
  • Hello Achref,

    When the load is 10A and the shunt voltage is 500mV (Rshunt = 50mOhm), then INA282 (gain 50) will have a saturated output voltage that is close to the power rail. The 500mV differential voltage will not be exceeding the Absolute Maximum differential voltage of 5V. Once the current drops to 50mA, there will be a slight delay in the INA282 output dropping from 5V to an output voltage that is within the linear range of INA282 output stage. This scenario was tested with Figure 31 of the data sheet.

    When the load is at 50mA and the shunt voltage is at 2.5mV, then the INA139 may be sourcing some small output current. How low the voltage output generated at the INA139 will go is dependent on the common-mode voltage of INA139 during the 50mA as seen in the datasheet ouput specifications.

    Best regards,

    Peter Iliya