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TINA/Spice/LMC6762: Voltage input violation

Part Number: LMC6762
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TINA-TI,

Tool/software: TINA-TI or Spice Models

Hi all,

I am using LMC6762 to check the correct positive voltage level of a power rail. I am using a reference on the negative input and a voltage divider on the positive input

and the supply of the comparator is +5V and GND. However, there might be a case when negative supply voltage appears on the supply rail, so the positive input

goes below ground. According to the datasheet it is a problem (max values: +Vs+0.3V and -Vs-0.3V), but I am not sure if it damages the device or not. I check this schematics in tina spice and for the negative voltage range it gave me about -800mV at maximum on the positive input no matter how big was the negative supply (up to -20V).

So my questions are; what is the internal structure of the device that allows or not this operation? does it bear the negative on the positive input if the negative supply is gnd or does it damage the comparator and I need a low drop schottky to keep the positive input maximum below -0.3V ?

Thanks for the reply,

Andrew

  • Hi Andras,

    if the input voltage exceeds the supply voltage by more than 0.3V, the input current must be limited to under 5mA. Have a look at the absolute maximum ratings of datasheet. It's wise to limit the input current even further, well below 1mA.

    You could use the same techique as described in the zero detector circuit from figure 32 of datasheet.

    Kai
  • Ok, so as my understanding the inputs are diode protected. I have 220K resistors from the rail to the input, so should be enough.
    Thanks Kai
    Regards,
    Andras