TINA/Spice/LMV761: LMV761 Spice Model For Supplies between 2.7V and 5V

MOSEL

Part Number: LMV761
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Hi,

I am working with the spice model for LMV761. According to the datasheet, recommended operating conditions for the supply are +2.7V to +5.25V, however electrical characteristics are given for +2.7V and +5V supplies only. Is the spice model defined for supply voltages between those values? My experimentation and some related posts suggest it may not be. If that is the case, is there an updated model available that is well behaved for supply voltages that are not 2.7V or 5V?

Thanks!

over 5 years ago

0 kai klaas69 over 5 years ago

Guru 140200 points

Hi Mosel,

what exactly is your problem?

Kai

0 Jonathan Nguyen over 5 years ago

TI__Expert 4555 points

Hi,

The model should work with operating range of 2.7V to 5.25V. What is leading you to believe the simulation doesn't work with this supply range?

Could you provide a schematic or attach your simulation file?

Thanks,

Jonny

0 MOSEL over 5 years ago in reply to kai klaas69

Intellectual 305 points

Kai,

I'm working with differential inputs that are mirror images. With a 3.3V input and 1.65V common mode voltage (The maximum for this level of supply according to the datasheet), current draw into the positive input of the comparator spikes to 10 mA while current draw into the negative input remains at a level in the microamps. This causes the positive input signal voltage to be clipped while the negative input is not. I thought that possibly I was exceeding the max CMV by some small amount, but increasing the supply voltage to 4V (With the same CMV) causes an erratic response. Increasing supply to 5V causes the comparator to behave normally. I have confirmed at my bench that this behavior does not occur in the real world. This leads me to suspect the model may not be defined for voltages other than 2.7V and 5V.

0 MOSEL over 5 years ago in reply to Jonathan Nguyen

Intellectual 305 points

Hi Jonny,

Thank you for your response.

I cannot provide schematics on a public forum. Please see my response to Kai for more details.

0 Jonathan Nguyen over 5 years ago in reply to MOSEL

TI__Expert 4555 points

Hi Mosel,

Thank you for bringing this issue up. I will bring this up to the modeling team to try and locate the issues within the model and try to fix it ASAP.

Thanks,
Jonny

0 MOSEL over 5 years ago in reply to Jonathan Nguyen

Intellectual 305 points

Ok thank you.

0 Chuck Sins over 5 years ago in reply to MOSEL

TI__Mastermind 23395 points

Mosel
we are still working on fixing the problem.
Hopefully we will have an update for you next week.

0 Chuck Sins over 5 years ago in reply to Chuck Sins

TI__Mastermind 23395 points

Mosel
Jonny will send a friend request if he has not already so this conversation can be taken offline. Since this will go offline to be resolved, I am closing the post.
Chuck

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