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LMC555: Timing Shift with Temperature

Part Number: LMC555

Hi,


We use the LMC555 to determine a capacitor. Temperature stability is for low capacitors a big deal.

With a smal capacitor (about 20p) I get an error of about +188ppm.

Every resistor and capacitor C9 have a low TC (< 30 ppm).

In the datasheet is a value typ. 75ppm. Any suggestions to improve my temperature stability?

Is the timing shift with temperature always positive or negative?

Regards,

Kilian

  • User,

    There are no setup conditions for that typical parameter. I have to assume that figure 1 with switches 2 and 4 closed as the related previous used those switch settings. This is 10k and 100nF for a timing interval of 1.1ms. The timing delay tempco is based propagation delay drift, threshold comparator drift and the pin 7 on resistance drift. All of that adds up to 75ppm/C.

    I quickly checked a different setup 4685 ohms and 923 pF that had a pulse time positive tempco of 300ppm/C. The higher level is due to propagation delay drift that is a pulse width adder so it adds more error percentage to shorter pulses. Therefore longer pulses will have less error and drift.

    I have to search for threshold tempco information. Pin 7 on resistance will set the capacitor starting voltage but that is expected to be insignificant unless Ra is low value. this resistance increases with temperature.

    In any case LMC555 is a general purpose timer so auto calibration using better accuracy standard caps may be required. This would likely add more cost than an alternate approach without onboard standards.
  • Thank you for the fast answer.

    I’ve build up a test circuit with a lower frequency range (approx. 4,5-28kHz). My full-scale drift with a small capacitor is now about  50ppm. That’s good enough.
    Is the estimate drift from part to part almost the same?

    Regards,
    Kilian

  • User,

    The internal equal value three resistor divider are inherently well matching FET based resistors and the comparator thresholds should only vary a few millivolts. Device to device should match fairly well. However, I recommend that you test more samples. to prove this out.