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ADS8329 noise using internal clock

ADS8329 noise using internal clock

  • Craig Hillis
    Posted by Craig Hillis
    on Jun 01 2012 07:56 AM
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    The noise is a broad hump (5kHz – 10kHz wide) that is 6dB to 10dB above the noise floor. Its frequency changes with sample rate and sometimes over time. I have changed the analog power supply, reference and input and it remains. I cannot see it on the reference, power supply or inputs in-band with an audio spectrum analyzer (it may be high frequency aliasing down). I have put an anti-alias filter at 40kHz on the input and it is still there. I have the board in a shielded box and have turned off the Wi-Fi and other RF transmitters in the building with no luck.

    We are using the internal clock for sampling, and manual trigger mode. We are not reading in the quiet time.

    Using the EOC/INT/CDI pin as EOC, active low output, there is approximately 20ns of jitter on the rising edge of the EOC line relative to the start of conversion. The EOC line is low for what should be 18 CCLKs based on the data sheet numbers, but the duration has the 20ns of jitter. This leads me to think the internal clock has jitter and could be causing the noise.

    I am wondering if the jitter is normal. Also, could the internal clock be beating with the SPI clock and data and causing noise internal to the device? At most sample rates we are not reading during the concersion, so I do not think beating is the issue.

    ADS8329
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  • Tom Hendrick
    Posted by Tom Hendrick
    on Jun 04 2012 10:21 AM
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    Hi Craig,

    Welcome to our forum!  I don't recall seeing this behavior in the ADS8329.  Can you let us know how you have the configuration register (CFR) set and possibly share a snippet of your schematic with us?  We can try to repeat your tests here.  What reference are you using? 

     

    Regards,

    Tom

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  • Craig Hillis
    Posted by Craig Hillis
    on Jun 04 2012 11:20 AM
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    4024.ADS8329.pdf

    Tom,

    Attached is a copy of the schematic for the ADS8329 section. There is an error on the schematic showing a 27pF capacitor on the 1.8V power line, it has been replaced with a 4.7uF capacitor.

    The analog switches for the filter and the gain at the input buffer (U156, U159, U60) have been removed. R376 has been populated with a 0 ohm resistor, and R53 removed (U155A is a unity gain buffer with a first order anti-alias RC filter on its input).

    So to simplify, the signal is connected from C211 (AC_IN) to R316 (HSIN) and the output of U155A is connected to R143 (HS_ADC_IN). The input side of C211 (IN) is shorted to analog ground.

    The reference is MAX6145.

    Register Value

    Setting

    Description

    CFR

    0x73D

     

    CFR.D11

    0b

    Manual channel selection mode

    CFR.D10

    1b

    Internal conversion clock used

    CFR.D9

    1b

    Manual trigger manually started by falling edge of CONVST

    CFR.D7

    1b

    EOC active high / INT active low

    CFR.D6

    1b

    Pin 10 used as EOC

    CFR.D5

    1b

    Pin 10 used as EOC/INT output

    CFR.D4

    1b

    Auto nap power-down disabled

    CFR.D3

    1b

    Remove device from nap power-down (resume)

    CFR.D2

    1b

    Remove device from deep power-down (resume)

    CFR.D1

    0b

    TAG bit disabled

    CFR.D0

    1b

    Normal operation

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  • Craig Hillis
    Posted by Craig Hillis
    on Jun 04 2012 12:06 PM
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    The data sheet shows a 470pF capacitor between pins 3 and 4. The pole formed with the 20ohm resistors is well out of band. Is there any drawback to increasing the capacitor value? I notice the noise floor drops with a larger (10nF) capacitor.

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  • Tom Hendrick
    Posted by Tom Hendrick
    on Aug 06 2012 14:08 PM
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    Hi Graig,

    Has this issue been resolved?  I know you were working off-line a bit with Ryan with this issue but I've not heard anything from him lately.

     

    Regards,

    Tom

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  • Craig Hillis
    Posted by Craig Hillis
    on Aug 08 2012 10:53 AM
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    I still have not found a solution or cause. I am looking at sending a blank board so the factory guys can try to replicate the problem.

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  • Tom Hendrick
    Posted by Tom Hendrick
    on Aug 14 2012 16:44 PM
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    Great!  Work through Ryan and we'll see what we can do on our end.

     

    Regards,

    Tom

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