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Use of ADS1118 with type B thermocouple

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: ADS1118, ADS1247, ADS1147, ADS1220, ADS1220EVM

The ADS1118 seem to be a perfect solution to single or dual high-gain thermocouples. (K, J, etc.)

Our product uses type B TC for temperatures of up to 1700C.

The type B TC has very low sensitivity (starting at 1 microvolt / deg c), up to aprox. 14 mV at 1800C.

The question is if anyone has ever used the ADS1118 for type B, and what was the accuracy in such case.

We currently use a X100 amplifier in front of the AtoD, while the ADS1118 has internal X16 PGA.

Thanks for any relevant information,

sam

  • Samuel,

    I don't know of anyone that is using the ADS1118 with a b-type thermocouple.With the full scale range of +/-0.256V, this gives you an LSB size of 7.8uV, which is a bit large for such a small response. If you do go with the ADS1118, there are a few references to look up. There's an evaluation module (which is more like a demo. There is also an MSP430 booster pack. Finally there is a precision design. Note that all of these are put together with k-type thermocouples.

    I'll include some other reading material for the ADS1118:

    Since you are using the b-type thermocouple, a better selection might be the ADS1147/8 or ADS1247/8. It will have more resolution with the larger gain settings. There are also similar EVMs and other reading material associated with it:

    Joseph Wu

  • Thanks Joseph.

    The  ADS1220  seems to be a perfect solution to our temperature measurement needs.

    We will probably purchase the ADS1220EVM.

    Are there any application notes for temperature measurement or other low-signal with the 1220? 

    Do you know if there is an option to also get a few samples to test with our design?

    samtal

  • To add to my prev answer:
    I have seen the attached application note, to which I have a comment to add: The AN shows the TC measurement with an external RTD reference measurement, while stating that TC must have such reference temperature reading.
    Well, this is not necessary when using thermocouple compensation wires that move the reference to the board, enabling the use of the chip's internal temperature sensor.
    I wonder: Is there a reason to neglecting the commonly used TC compensation wires ?
  • Sam,


    You can find a few ADS1220 designs if you search the TI website:

    www.ti.com/.../refdesignsearchresults.tsp

    If you want a few free device samples, you'll need to give a company address. Click the "Request Sample" button at the following website:

    www.ti.com/.../samplebuy;tisearch=Search-EN-Everything

    As for your latest post, I'm not quite sure what you are asking. You're referring to the thermocouple based application where they use an RTD based cold-junction compensation. I think the issue is that the cold junction and the board may not be at the same place or even the same temperature. Even if the ADC uses its internal temperature sensor, you still may need to make a remote temperature measurement (in this case, using a separate RTD measurement).

    If that's not what you're asking about, post back and I can comment again.


    Joseph Wu
  • Thanks Joseph, 

    I already ordered the ADS1220EVM board and 2 ADS1220 samples (from DigiKey, paid for...).

    Regarding the reference junction question - Well, you are right in the case the extension wires do not reach the board.

    Normally, if one uses the extension wires with the correct connectors in the right location (right board design), the external reference can be eliminated.

    In such case I believe the accuracy of the RTD is not better that the combination of correct wires and connectors.

    In any case - your answer is sufficient.

    I'll wait for the board and try it out,  and then, if I'll have more questions i'll allow myself to ask.

    Thanks again for your support.

    Sam