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Choosing DAC for Digital Inkjet Printer

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: DAC908, DAC38J84

Hi,


We have recently started a new project in which we need to generate an "Arbitrary Waveform" for our new Industrial Digital Inkjet Print head.

Frequency selection of our application ranges from (1-20)khz.

We are using Altera Cyclone series FPGA to generate digital out, anything 8-16bit DAC won't be a problem but it has to be Precise signal out.

Any Advice on choosing DAC would be much appreciated.

Regards

Siva

  • Siva,

    Our Precision DAC Products are usually intended for DC applications and as such the datasheet specifications are really targeted to provide useful information for these applications. Unfortunately there isn't so much information about AC applications using Precision DACs, partly because it's not our primary application space and partly because there are so many variables to consider that it would be very difficult to describe in the datasheet while still being flexible enough for customers to tailor to their own application needs.

    With that said, one of the first-order items to consider is settling time. Settling time for DACs is usually provided for a nearly full-scale step size with the outputs settled within a 1 LSB error-band. Generally speaking the fastest Precision DAC products unbuffered voltage-output R-2R DACs or unbuffered current-output MDACs and the fastest speeds you can realize (based on the full-scale 1-LSB settling time specification) is 0.5us to 1us or 1-2MHz update rate. This will dictate the number of updates per sinusoid period and influence the THD or SNR of the sinusoid.

    Since you will be using smaller step-sizes than a full-scale step for most of, if not all of, the points that make up the sinusoid you may find that the settling time figure is not actually the bottle-neck, but is instead the through-put of the digital interface. In such a case it may be beneficial to look at DACs that feature parallel interfaces since these will allow you to latch data into the DAC data register faster and eliminate the digital through-put as an obstacle.

    Other factors to consider would be the amplitude of the sinusoid and exactly how "precise" you need the outputs to be. Predominantly a device with lower gain error and INL error will help maintain better AC performance. You may also consider some level of filtering or attenuation on the digital edges (if possible based on digital through-put requirements) as they relate to digital feedthrough, as this will also decay AC performance.
  • Hi Kevin,

    I have checked with our existing waveform generator board and found DAC908 chip. We would like to use latest chip set with similar features of DAC908 or even better.

    Can you advice on choosing this.

    Regards
    Siva
  • Siva,

    The DAC908 is a high-speed data-converter with 165Msps data-rate. Our precision data-converters maximum data-rate is about 10Msps. In order to get you further assistance with the high-speed products, I have moved your thread to the high-speed data-converters forum.
  • Siva,

    What specifications do you need? And what kind of signal are you generating?

    We have DACs like the DAC90x family as well as many faster (500M-2.5Gsps) DACs. We also support 12/14/16b single, dual and quad variants. Do you also need buffered output driving something else?

    Check out some possibilities with this TI-Design - using our LVDS DAC family.
    www.ti.com/.../TIDA-00075

    These same design concepts can be applied to our lower speed CMOS families as well as our LVDS (this design) or JESD204B (design with DAC38J84) coupled with active amplifier interfaces.

    Let me know if any of this sounds like what you may need.

    Ken.
  • Ken,

    Current we are using Altera "DE2-115" development board for testing.

    We would like to buy a DAC evaluation board(Any high speed model) that fits on this board. It has got GPIO and HSMC connectors on it. 

    Can you advice on this.

    Regards

    Siva

  • Sivaprasad,

    All of our high speed LVDS DAC boards have a HSMC connector on them but do not have a GPIO connector. Most of them do have an option to connect the SPI interface across the HSMC. How many bits do you need? How fast a sampling rate? Single, dual or quad? Most of these use a QTH-090-01-F-D connector from Samtec. Will this mate with your Altera board?   

    Regards,

    Jim 

  • Hello Jim,

    HSMC connector will work for us, Ignore GPIO connector.

    If you don't have parallel data transfer then SPI will do.

    Bits:- 12-16

    Sampling Rate:- >150MSPS

    No of Channels:- Not Important

    Regards

    Siva