• Join
  • Sign In with my.TI Login
Texas Instruments
  • Products
  • Applications
  • Tools & Software
  • Support & Community
  • Sample & Buy
  • About TI
Sample & Purchase Cart Sample & Purchase Cart
  • Search
  • Advanced
TI E2E™ Community
  • Support Forums
  • Blogs
  • Groups
  • Videos
  • 简体中文
  • More ...
TI Home » TI E2E Community » Support Forums » Data Converters » Video Converters » Video Converters - Forum » 4:2:2 YUV VS BT.656
Share
Video Converters
  • Forum
  • Announcements
Options
  • Subscribe via RSS
Check out
Analog Wire blog
  • $core_v2_blog.Current.Name

    RS-485 - Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks?

    Posted 4 days ago
    by Neel Seshan
    Would you agree that RS-485 has turned out to be one of the most...
  • $core_v2_blog.Current.Name

    Filter for thought

    Posted 5 days ago
    by Soufiane Bendaoud
    Have you ever wondered how engineers designed active filters...
  • $core_v2_blog.Current.Name

    Let’s take this driver out for a spin

    Posted 11 days ago
    by Soufiane Bendaoud
    Before I suggest a suitable op amp to drive an ADC, I look at...

Forums

4:2:2 YUV VS BT.656

This question is answered
Anonymous
Posted by Anonymous
on Oct 26 2010 07:24 AM
Guru13910 points

Hi All,

I would like to ask a question on TVP5150 output mode:

 

What is the difference between:

 

1.      8-bit 4:2:2 YUV with discrete sync output

2.      8-bit ITU−R BT.656 interface with embedded sync output

 

I am confused because BT.656 also implements 4:2:2 sampling, with luminance being sampled 720 active values per line and Cb/Cr both 360 active values per line. Then

 

In terms of luminance and chroma sampling, is there any difference between the above two?

What is “discrete sync output”?  According to BT. 656, EAV and SAV contains

 

F: 0 during field 1, 1 during field 2
V: 0 elsewhere, 1 during field blanking
H: 0 in SAV, 1 in EAV
 

It is therefore in this way synchronization signals are embedded. What about the “8-bit 4:2:2 YUV with discrete sync output” case? Where is its synchronization signal?

 

I noticed that for TVP5150, on page 5 of document SLES043A, there are

1.      Pin 24: VSYNC, PALI

2.      Pin 25: HSYNC

 

Are these two pins intended for the “discrete sync output” case?

 

 

Sincerely,

Zheng

TVP5150
Report Abuse
  • Reply
You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available.
All Replies
  • Larry Taylor
    Posted by Larry Taylor
    on Oct 26 2010 15:48 PM
    Verified Answer
    Verified by Larry Taylor
    Genius16810 points

    Hi Zheng,

    Yes Pin 24 and 25 are the discrete or separate sync outputs.  These outputs can be activated in both 8-bit 4:2:2 YUV and 8-bit BT.656 output formats.

    The only difierence between the output formats is that 8-bit BT.656 has the embedded EAV/SAV syncs, and the 8-bit 4:2:2 YUV does not.  The YC video data is the same for both formats.

     

    TVP5150AM1
    Did this answer your question? No
    Report Abuse
    • Reply
    You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available.
  • Anonymous
    Posted by Anonymous
    on Oct 27 2010 04:09 AM
    Verified Answer
    Verified by Larry Taylor
    Guru13910 points

    Dear Larry,

     

    Thanks very much for the answer, now I understand the difference.

     

    “These outputs can be activated in both 8-bit 4:2:2 YUV and 8-bit BT.656 output formats.”

     

    In BT.656 mode where EAV/SAV syncs are already embedded, which could make pin 24 VSYNC and 25 HSYNC redundant, we can still choose to activate these separate sync outputs?

     

    So in

    1.      Pure 4:2:2 without embedded sync, pin 24 and 25 are necessary

    2.      BT.656, they are redundant, and it is up to the user whether to utilize them, or just use the embedded sync signal

     

    Is this correct?

     

     

    Sincerely,

    Zheng

    Did this answer your question? No
    Report Abuse
    • Reply
    You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available.
  • Larry Taylor
    Posted by Larry Taylor
    on Oct 27 2010 09:33 AM
    Verified Answer
    Verified by Larry Taylor
    Genius16810 points

    Zheng,

    Your understanding is correct, you can still activate HS/VS outputs when using BT.656, but you may not need these if the video processor uses only embedded syncs.

    If the video processor uses separate syncs instead of embedded syncs, it is may be best to use 4:2:2 mode to remove the embedded syncs from the data.  If the video processor does does remove the embedded syncs from active video, they could be visible at the display boundaries.

     

     

    TVP5150AM1
    Did this answer your question? No
    Report Abuse
    • Reply
    You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available.
  • Anonymous
    Posted by Anonymous
    on Oct 28 2010 03:07 AM
    Verified Answer
    Verified by Larry Taylor
    Guru13910 points

    Dear Larry,

    Now I understand it. Thanks very much.

    Zheng

    TVP5150
    Did this answer your question? No
    Report Abuse
    • Reply
    You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available.
  • Trushal Alshi
    Posted by Trushal Alshi
    on Jun 22 2012 05:30 AM
    Prodigy10 points

    Larry,

    Any idea about interface of BT.656 with gstreamer.

    We are using TVP BT.656 interface with FPGA(embedded synch). FPGA in turn transmits the data to a processor through PCIe for encoding on gstreamer.

    Very litttle literature is available on BT.656 interface with gstreamer. Thanks in adance.

     

     

    Did this answer your question? Yes
    Report Abuse
    • Reply
    You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available.
TI E2E™ Community
  • Support Forums
  • Blogs
  • Videos
  • Groups
  • Site Support & Feedback
  • Settings
TI E2E™ Community Groups
  • TI University Program
  • Make the Switch
  • Microcontroller Projects
  • Motor Drive & Control
Other Communities
  • Deyisupport
  • Designsomething.org
  • beagleboard.org
  • TI on Element 14
  • TI on TechXchangeSM
Other Technical & Support Resources
  • WEBENCH® Design Center
  • Product Information Centers
  • Technical Documents
  • TI Design Network
  • TI Technical Articles
  • TI Training

All content and materials on this site are provided "as is". TI and its respective suppliers and providers of content make no representations about the suitability of these materials for any purpose and disclaim all warranties and conditions with regard to these materials, including but not limited to all implied warranties and conditions of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose, title and non-infringement of any third party intellectual property right. TI and its respective suppliers and providers of content make no representations about the suitability of these materials for any purpose and disclaim all warranties and conditions with respect to these materials. No license, either express or implied, by estoppel or otherwise, is granted by TI. Use of the information on this site may require a license from a third party, or a license from TI.

Content on this site may contain or be subject to specific guidelines or limitations on use. All postings and use of the content on this site are subject to the Terms of Use of the site; third parties using this content agree to abide by any limitations or guidelines and to comply with the Terms of Use of this site. TI, its suppliers and providers of content reserve the right to make corrections, deletions, modifications, enhancements, improvements and other changes to the content and materials, its products, programs and services at any time or to move or discontinue any content, products, programs, or services without notice.

Follow Us Texas Instruments on Facebook Texas Instruments on Twitter Texas Instruments on LinkedIn Texas Instruments on Google+
TI Worldwide | Contact Us | my.TI Login | Site Map | Corporate Citizenship | mobile m.ti.com (Mobile Version)

TI is a global semiconductor design and manufacturing company. Innovate with 100,000+ analog ICs and
embedded processors, along with software, tools and the industry’s largest sales/support staff.

© Copyright 1995-2013 Texas Instruments Incorporated. All rights reserved.
Trademarks | Privacy Policy | Terms of Use