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TINA and LTspice IV

TINA and LTspice IV

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David Zhang16358
Posted by David Zhang16358
on Aug 23 2010 18:23 PM
Expert1900 points

I have used TINA and LT spice to simulate a same circuit but got two different result.

Which simulator i should trust?

So sad.

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  • SaraR
    Posted by SaraR
    on Aug 23 2010 20:13 PM
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    Hi David,

    What circuit did you simulate? Would you send the TINA and LTspice for debug? Which version of TINA did you use?
    We would be happy to help you with this question.

    -Sara

    TINA spice Simulation
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  • David Zhang16358
    Posted by David Zhang16358
    on Aug 24 2010 10:46 AM
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    TINA version I am using is 7.0.80.96 SF-TI.

    Please let me know how I can send those file to you?

    Thanks.

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  • David Zhang16358
    Posted by David Zhang16358
    on Aug 24 2010 12:50 PM
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    reset driver.zip

    The attached files are the same circuit we used TINA and LTspice IV to simulate but got total different results.

    Thank you so much for your helps.

     

     

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  • David Zhang16358
    Posted by David Zhang16358
    on Aug 24 2010 12:52 PM
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    TINA reset.zip

    The attached files are the same circuit we used TINA and LTspice IV to simulate but got total different results.

    Thank you so much for your helps.

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  • SaraR
    Posted by SaraR
    on Aug 24 2010 15:24 PM
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    HI David,

    We will look into these and get back with you in a week or less with findings.

    Best regards,

    -Sara

    TINA Simulation LTSPICE
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  • David Zhang16358
    Posted by David Zhang16358
    on Aug 24 2010 16:16 PM
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    Thank you so much SaraR.

    Take care.

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  • Britt Brooks - WEBENCH® Design Center
    Posted by Britt Brooks - WEBENCH® Design Center
    on Aug 30 2010 14:53 PM
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    David,

    After checking the performance of the circuit, we have found two things that have added to the difference in the TINA simulation. The first was the missing 50 ohm resistor at the input. The second issue was more difficult to find. Apparently, a couple of parameters in TINA's built in transistor model were different from the current manufacturer's model. I am attaching a new TINA_reset_changed .TSC file to this post for your to evaluate. The parameters changed were the Reverse Beta (from 5 to 1.3) and the Reverse transit time (from 51.7n to 5.17n).

    After these changes are made, the waveforms look more closely similar. As with any test between two simulators, there will be differences due to the individual nature of each simulator (defaults, convergence alogrithms, tolerances, numerics, etc.).

    Please let us know if you have any additional questions.

    Britt Brooks

    4188.TINA_reset_changed.TSC

    TINA Simulation LTSPICE
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