• Join
  • Sign In with my.TI Login
Texas Instruments
  • Products
  • Applications
  • Tools & Software
  • Support & Community
  • Sample & Buy
  • About TI
Sample & Purchase Cart Sample & Purchase Cart
  • Search
  • Advanced
TI E2E™ Community
  • Support Forums
  • Blogs
  • Groups
  • Videos
  • 简体中文
  • More ...
TI Home » TI E2E Community » Support Forums » Digital Signal Processors (DSP) » DaVinci™ Video Processors » DM814x and AM387x Processors Forum » The spec of Vref for AM3874
Share
DaVinci™ Video Processors
  • Forums
  • Announcements
Options
  • Subscribe via RSS

Forums

The spec of Vref for AM3874

This question is not answered
Michi Yama
Posted by Michi Yama
on Jun 26 2012 00:22 AM
Expert2455 points

Hi,

I would like to know "VREFSSTL_DDR(VREF) " current spec of AM3874.

I proposed customer to use TPS51200 as SINK/SOURCE DDR TERMINATION REGULATOR.

 According to TPS51200 datasheet,  REFOUT source current limit and sink current limit are 10mA(min.).

Who do you know the AM3874 VREFSSTL_DDR(VREF) current spec?

Best regards,

Michi

Report Abuse
  • Reply
You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available.
All Replies
  • Michi Yama
    Posted by Michi Yama
    on Jun 26 2012 04:53 AM
    Expert2455 points

    Hi,

    I would like to ask one more question regarding DDR3 Vtt.

    As you know, Vtt is used for the termination of address and control signal. And address and control signal is driven by AM3874.

    Rtt for termination resistor value is already specified in datasheet. But "Vtt min/max" value is not specified in AM3874 datasheet.

    Customer said me "Vtt min/max" is needed to take the signal matching. Could someone give me "Vtt min/max" value for AM3874? 

    Customer can't design the system without this spec.

    Please help !

    Best regards,

    Michi

     

    Report Abuse
    • Reply
    You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available.
  • MarcPyne
    Posted by MarcPyne
    on Aug 06 2012 12:57 PM
    Mastermind23505 points

    Hello,

    The nominal value of the VTT supply is half the DDR3 supply voltage, and the min/max values can also be derived from the min/max values for the DDR3 supply voltage.

    Regards,
    Marc

    Please mark this Forum post as answered via the Verify Answer button below if it helps answer your question.  Thanks!

    Report Abuse
    • Reply
    You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available.
  • MarcPyne
    Posted by MarcPyne
    on Aug 06 2012 14:21 PM
    Mastermind23505 points

    Hello,

    The VREFSSTL_DDR(VREF) current is not specified separately, but the TPS51200 should work fine.  The DM8168 EVM schematics are a good reference point for using the TPS51200.

    Regards,
    Marc

    Please mark this Forum post as answered via the Verify Answer button below if it helps answer your question.  Thanks!

    Report Abuse
    • Reply
    You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available.
  • Michi Yama
    Posted by Michi Yama
    on Aug 06 2012 20:50 PM
    Expert2455 points

    Dear Marc-san,

    Thank you for your reply.

    Regarding DDR3Vtt, please let me know the meaning of you said that "the min/maxu values can also be derived  from the min/max values for the DDR3 supply voltage.".

    Are Vtt min/max values the same as the half value of DDR3 supply voltage min/max?  Is AM3874 acceptable the fluctuation of the signal caused by Vtt value spec?

    I appreciate your quick reply.

    Best regards,

    Michi

    Report Abuse
    • Reply
    You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available.
  • MarcPyne
    Posted by MarcPyne
    on Aug 07 2012 10:21 AM
    Mastermind23505 points

    Michi-san,

    Yes, the Vtt min/max values are the same as half the value of DDR3 supply voltage min/max.

    Regards,
    Marc

    Please mark this Forum post as answered via the Verify Answer button below if it helps answer your question.  Thanks!

    Report Abuse
    • Reply
    You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available.
  • Michi Yama
    Posted by Michi Yama
    on Aug 07 2012 19:34 PM
    Expert2455 points

    Dear Marc-san,

    Thank you for your reply.

    I talked your answer to my customer. They say there is no guarantee even though EVM works fine with TPS51200.

    They can't understand the reason why VREF current is not specified. They say it should be specified if the block of the VREF(VREFSSTL_DDR) is unique than other IO pins. Pleasel let me know the VREFcurrent specification.

    I appreciate your quick reply.

    Best regards,

    Report Abuse
    • Reply
    You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available.
  • Michi Yama
    Posted by Michi Yama
    on Aug 07 2012 22:55 PM
    Expert2455 points

    Dear Marc-san,

    Thank you for your reply.

    The  below is the case of using TPS51200. Could you confirm it?

    DDR3 supply voltage(VDDQ)  is specified as the below. 

    VDDQ = 1.5V +- 0.075V 

    Based on your answer,

    VTT = VDDQ / 2 = 0.75V +- 0.0375V  ---> VTT requirement of AM3874. Tolerance is +- 37.5mV.

    According to the datasheet of TPS51200, VO(VTT) of TPS51200 tolerance is +-25mV .

    This value(+-25mV)  satisfies AM3874's Vtt requirement.

    Is this right?

    Best regards,

    Michi

     

    Report Abuse
    • Reply
    You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available.
  • MarcPyne
    Posted by MarcPyne
    on Aug 08 2012 16:07 PM
    Mastermind23505 points

    Michi-san,

    Yes, that looks correct..

    Regards,
    Marc

    Please mark this Forum post as answered via the Verify Answer button below if it helps answer your question.  Thanks!

    Report Abuse
    • Reply
    You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available.
  • Michi Yama
    Posted by Michi Yama
    on Aug 16 2012 20:41 PM
    Expert2455 points

    Marc-san,

    Thank you for your support.

    You had given an answer to me regarding Vtt(min/max) value. I appreciate your support.

    Please give me other question's answer. It is VREF current spec.

    The below is my last post regading this question.

    >Dear Marc-san,

    >Thank you for your reply.

    >I talked your answer to my customer. They say there is no guarantee even though EVM works fine with TPS51200.

    >They can't understand the reason why VREF current is not specified. They say it should be specified if the block of the VREF(VREFSSTL_DDR) is unique than other IO >pins. Pleasel let me know the VREFcurrent specification.

    Your quick reply is helpful.

    Best regards,

    Michi

    Report Abuse
    • Reply
    You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available.
TI E2E™ Community
  • Support Forums
  • Blogs
  • Videos
  • Groups
  • Site Support & Feedback
  • Settings
TI E2E™ Community Groups
  • TI University Program
  • Make the Switch
  • Microcontroller Projects
  • Motor Drive & Control
Other Communities
  • Deyisupport
  • Designsomething.org
  • beagleboard.org
  • TI on Element 14
  • TI on TechXchangeSM
Other Technical & Support Resources
  • WEBENCH® Design Center
  • Product Information Centers
  • Technical Documents
  • TI Design Network
  • TI Technical Articles
  • TI Training

All content and materials on this site are provided "as is". TI and its respective suppliers and providers of content make no representations about the suitability of these materials for any purpose and disclaim all warranties and conditions with regard to these materials, including but not limited to all implied warranties and conditions of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose, title and non-infringement of any third party intellectual property right. TI and its respective suppliers and providers of content make no representations about the suitability of these materials for any purpose and disclaim all warranties and conditions with respect to these materials. No license, either express or implied, by estoppel or otherwise, is granted by TI. Use of the information on this site may require a license from a third party, or a license from TI.

Content on this site may contain or be subject to specific guidelines or limitations on use. All postings and use of the content on this site are subject to the Terms of Use of the site; third parties using this content agree to abide by any limitations or guidelines and to comply with the Terms of Use of this site. TI, its suppliers and providers of content reserve the right to make corrections, deletions, modifications, enhancements, improvements and other changes to the content and materials, its products, programs and services at any time or to move or discontinue any content, products, programs, or services without notice.

Follow Us Texas Instruments on Facebook Texas Instruments on Twitter Texas Instruments on LinkedIn Texas Instruments on Google+
TI Worldwide | Contact Us | my.TI Login | Site Map | Corporate Citizenship | mobile m.ti.com (Mobile Version)

TI is a global semiconductor design and manufacturing company. Innovate with 100,000+ analog ICs and
embedded processors, along with software, tools and the industry’s largest sales/support staff.

© Copyright 1995-2013 Texas Instruments Incorporated. All rights reserved.
Trademarks | Privacy Policy | Terms of Use