TI E2E Community
Using NEON with WinCE 6.0 on OMAP3530
Could you tell me whether there is a WinCE 6.0 library to use NEON on OMAP3530 ? Indeed, we would like to use it in order to perform vector/matrix floating point operations in few cycle.
Thanks for your help.
WinCE6.0 has no "native" support for NEON. When multiple threads use either
NEON or VFP, the registers have to be saved and restored by the kernel during
context switches when a VFP/NEON exception is raised. The OMAP3 uses VFPv3 and
as a consequence shares the same set of registers as NEON. Visit ARM website
here for details: http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.dht0002a/DHT0002A_introducing_neon.pdf
WinCE6.0 R2 (and R3) kernel only saves D0
to D15 registers only when a VFP instruction
occurs. Although Microsoft provides kernel hooks like
OEMSaveVFPCtrlRegs() and OEMRestoreVFPCtrlRegs() in order to save extra VFP registers, implementing these functions
won't work as they will only allow you to save eight additional 32 bits
registers. We need at least sixteen more i.e.
from D16 to D31. Visit MSDN here for
If you are
interested and have access to the Microsoft WinCE
Kernel Source code, look at
think you can just increment the number of VFP registers in
the %_WINCEROOT%\PUBLIC\COMMON\SDK\INC\winnt.h file. However, all the kernel
source code would not be aligned if not re-built from the %_WINCEROOT%\PRIVATE
source tree which we are not allowed to modify
besides Microsoft itself.
Solution to support both VFP + NEON:
Don't know if
a reliable one exists as Microsoft has not support for it in its kernel
code and their official position is to NOT
support it. And the Shared Source Microsoft Program only allows people to
look at the kernel code, no modifications allowed.
The only available
option with WinCE6 is to use either the ARM supplied VFPv2 library OR Neon - Neon is used by the accelerated GDI
functions in the current WinCE BSP for the
display driver so you would need to disable/remove this part.
Neon context is
saved/restored using the co-proc kernel callbacks in the BSP.
If you use the ARM
supplied VFPv2 library then you must disable the co-proc kernel callback and
allow the Microsoft kernel to save/restore the VFP context.
Enabling both the
Neon co-proc callback functions for save and restore context, and using VFPv2
library from ARM will lead to corruption of graphics or incorrect floating point
Hope this helps.
This means the current WinCE6.0 toolchain has no support for NEON and there is no emulated library like the VFPv2 one from ARM. Your only chance is to get access to WinCE7.0 if you have a special agreement with Microsoft like ADP program or wait for WinCE7.0 RTM.
Thanks for your detailed answer. I have other questions :
I am using VFPv2. TI's/BSquare documentation mentions "If you use the ARM supplied VFPv2 library then you must disable the co-proc kernel callback
and allow the Microsoft kernel to save/restore the VFP context." How can co-proc kernel callback be disabled?
I may be wrong but I thought there was another issue with the VFPv2 under CE 6? I'll have to dig around maybe it was the NEON interaction. I do remember having it working in an earlier dorp of the BSP.
In vfphandler.c, in OALVFPInitialize(), change these lines as follows:
pOemGlobal->pfnInitCoProcRegs = NULL; pOemGlobal->pfnSaveCoProcRegs = NULL; pOemGlobal->pfnRestoreCoProcRegs = NULL; pOemGlobal->cbCoProcRegSize = 0; pOemGlobal->fSaveCoProcReg = FALSE;
Please click Verify Answer button if this response answers your question. For updated information on TI WINCE BSP, please check out the WinCE Handbook.
All content and materials on this site are provided "as is". TI and its respective suppliers and providers of content make no representations about the suitability of these materials for any purpose and disclaim all warranties and conditions with regard to these materials, including but not limited to all implied warranties and conditions of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose, title and non-infringement of any third party intellectual property right. TI and its respective suppliers and providers of content make no representations about the suitability of these materials for any purpose and disclaim all warranties and conditions with respect to these materials. No license, either express or implied, by estoppel or otherwise, is granted by TI. Use of the information on this site may require a license from a third party, or a license from TI.
TI is a global semiconductor design and manufacturing company. Innovate with 100,000+ analog ICs andembedded processors, along with software, tools and the industry’s largest sales/support staff.