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DS90LV019: Noise on differential receive lines and sometimes power and ground pins

Part Number: DS90LV019

One of our major products uses DS90LV019TMTC/NOPB and is showing issues in production. During testing, we are having 20% of our boards show noise with the part. Sometimes it is just on the two differential receive lines, and sometimes on the ground and vcc pins as well. Sometimes attaching unterminated cabling brings the noise. Other times it's just there with the board having no cabling attached to the connector that sends the the differential lines out to another board.  The noise sometimes looks like it has a distinct fundamental frequency. One thing to note is there are ferite beads connecting the  board's 3.3V rail and ground to the part's vcc and gnd pins. the vcc pin has bypass caps.  Often the noise will be on the power and ground pins of the part, but it will not be on the other side of the ferrite beads that are connected to the actual ground and 3.3V.  If we remove the ferrite bead, the problem sometimes gets fixed. Shorting the pins to actual 3.3V and Ground will tie the pins to a stable 3.3V and 0V.  Other times the noise doesn't stop and the part needs to be replaced.

We did a lot of isolating to isolate the noise to the chip.  We've had luck with a different manufacturer's LVDS chip, but didn't know what the issue was and if there was anything we could do to make this chip work. Image of the basic setup below:

  • Hello Kapil,

    Can you please share the waveform showing the noise with the different configurations that you have tried?

    Regards,
    Yaser
  • Hello Kapil,

    I haven't heard back from you for a while. I will close this thread for now, but if you still need support please reply back and it will get open again.

    Regards,
    Yaser
  • Hi Yaser,

    Here are scope shots of the noise.  In order of the images, they are on the Ri+ line, VCC, and GND line.  RI lines are most common.  sometimes vcc and gnd pick it up too.  Remember from the schematic, the vcc and gnd lines have a ferrite bead between them and their source 3.3v/gnd.  sometimes removing the bead will fix the issue, and sometimes it wont.  Also as a refresher, this sometimes happens with no cabling connected, and sometimes happens when a cable is connected but not terminated on the other side (left floating).

  • Is the RI noise common mode or differential mode? Which choke are you using?

    Anyway, the LVDS receiver has high-impedance inputs, so when the signal lines are not actively driven, they are likely to pick up even weak noise. And when that noise crosses some threshold in the receiver, you get switching currents at the same frequency. For that case, you should add fail-safe resistors:

    It's possible that you get antiresonance between the parallel decoupling capacitors, and the beads might produce an LC oscillator. Try removing C357 and C359.