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SN65HVD72: About Recommended Operating Conditions

Part Number: SN65HVD72
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: THVD1410

Hello support team,

I have some questions regarding SN65HVD72.
When the datasheet of SN65HVD72 has been revised from Revision G to H, the following description has been added to the footnote of Section 7.3 Recommended Operating Conditions.
"(1) Exposure to conditions beyond the recommended operation maximum for extended periods may affect device reliability."

[Question]
1. Why is this annotation added although the absolute maximum ratings is specified in section 7.1?
2. How much application of overvoltage does it affect the reliability?
3. How long application of overvoltage does it affect the reliability?

Sincerely,
M. Tachibana

  • Tachibana-san,

    This annotation means that short-duration periods that exceed 3.6 V (the maximum recommended operating VCC) but do not exceed 5 V (the absolute maximum VCC) are OK, but users should not operate at VCC = 5 V continuously in their systems.  This is in line with the general meaning of the recommended and absolute maximum ranges and does not change them, but it serves as a reminder that the device was designed with 3.3-V nominal VCC operation in mind.

    Regards,
    Max Robertson

  • Hello Max-san,

    Thank you for the reply.

    The customer wants to know the degree of quality degradation when VCC is exceeded 3.6 V and less than 5 V.
    So I will ask you some questions again.
    1. How long is "short-duration periods" you said?
    The customer wants to know the approximate concrete time.
    2. If VCC exceeds 3.6 V (less than 5 V), will the "short-duration periods" shorten as the voltage increases?

    Sincerely,
    M. Tachibana

  • Tachibana-san,

    It can be difficult to quantify this due to the number of variables involved.  To give some reference, though - some of the lower-voltage transistors used for internal logic circuit would be the most susceptible to effects of elevated VCC, and these transistors' component-level FIT (number of failures per billion operating hours) could be expected to increase from 0.000467 (at VCC = 3.6 V) to 0.0394 if VCC were operated at 4 V for 100% of the device's lifetime.  (The FIT would continue to degrade exponentially at this rate with further increases in VCC.)  As the percentage of time exposed to the high voltage reduces, the FIT improves: for example, with 10% exposure the FIT reduces by about 1000x.  With 1% exposure it would reduce by about 1000000x.

    The overall device-level FIT (per ti.com) is 0.1, meaning 1 failure per 10 billion operating hours.  This is relatively low for most applications, and so in most cases even moderate increases may still result in a FIT that is within a given application's targets.

    If the customer is still concerned about tolerance to higher VCC levels, I would recommend evaluating THVD1410.

    In case you are not familiar with FIT terminology, please reference:

    https://www.ti.com/support-quality/reliability/reliability-terminology.html

    Regards,
    Max

  • Hello Max-san,

    Thank you for the detailed commentary.

    In your explanation, the concept of reliability of this IC seems to be the same as other general ICs.
    I have not understood why you dare to add the annotation only to this IC.

    Sincerely,
    M. Tachibana

  • Tachibana-san,

    I understand your confusion, since you are correct that the same concerns would apply to any IC.

    There were a couple of reasons for this note.  One is that while this device was designed for 3.3-V operation, many other RS-485 transceivers are designed to operate at VCC = 5 V.  We wanted to make sure it was clear that the device was not designed for long-term operation at 5 V, since we have seen some confusion around this topic.

    Another reason relates more to the change history.  Before this version of the datasheet, a previous version was published which lowered the absolute maximum VCC to 3.6 V.  This was because a review of the design identified some transistors in the IC which (per our internal component specifications) were not rated for 5-V operation.  This change was difficult for customers, though, since some applications may not always control VCC well to keep it below 3.6 V.  Based on this feedback, we performed a more in-depth analysis and found that the degradation at higher supply voltages was actually not so severe.  Based on that, we were able to re-revise the datasheet to increase the limit to 5 V.  However, as not to give the impression that there was zero reliability impact at all to higher voltages we added the footnote (which doesn't modify anything beyond the standard definitions of the recommended/absolute maximum limits but perhaps calls better attention to the concern).

    Regards,
    Max

  • Hello Max-san,

    Thank you for explaining in detail.

    I understood the relationship between addition of the footnote and the history of the revision of the absolute maximum rating.
    I appreciate your valuable information.

    Sincerely,
    M. Tachibana