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DS25BR100 Repeaters

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Anand Kumar Rai
Posted by Anand Kumar Rai
on Jul 24 2012 09:38 AM
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Hi all!!!

I have 10base T ethernet TX+/TX- and RX+/RX- from MAC that need to be connected a back plane connector(not RJ-45 connector) on my the board through magnetics.

Do I need to use DS25BR100 repeaters between MAC and back-plane connectors. Basically I want to know, how much length 10base T signals can travel on PCB(FR-4), so that they be detected without much loss.

Thanks in advance

Best Regards

-Anand 

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  • John Goldie
    Posted by John Goldie
    on Jul 26 2012 18:50 PM
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    Greetings -

    This is difficult to advise on, as it depends on the IO cell in the MAC and PHY (unnamed) on what they can drive.  Best is to see if there is any guidance on the MAC drivers for length, and also see what the downstream device needs in terms of swing (threshold).  Then insert a BUFFER if needed.

    Typically the MAC and PHYs can be 5 to 10 inches apart without buffers.  Key is tp make sure the lines are all matched length to perserve CLOCK to Data relationship.

    Best Regards

    John Goldie

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    Posted by Anand Kumar Rai
    on Jul 26 2012 23:25 PM
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    Hi John,

    Thanks for your feedback!!!

    MAC used is a Freescale powerpc MPC8387 and PHY used is Broadcom BCM5461S. And we are definitely taking care of matched lines with minimum number if vias between MAC and PHY. Shall I think like if we maintain less than 5 to 10 inches distance between MAC and PHY, then repeaters are not required??

    Best Regards

    -Anand

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    Posted by John Goldie
    on Jul 27 2012 12:12 PM
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    Greetings -

    I cant comment on the capability of another vendors parts, but typically we see direct connections of 5 to 10 inches between MAC and PHYs, likely to be fine.

    John

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    Posted by Anand Kumar Rai
    on Jul 30 2012 03:25 AM
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    Hi John,

    Thanks for your feedback and support, we will take care of your suggestions.

      Thanks and regards

    -Anand

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