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1000BASE-BX

1000BASE-BX

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Wenjun Huang
Posted by Wenjun Huang
on May 30 2012 11:59 AM
Expert1770 points

Does anyone know how to design for 1000BASE-BX?

Is 1000BASE-BX fiber optic Ethernet? Could it be routed through the backplane, or only come out through fiber optic SFP?

Is there any Ethernet PHY suitable for 1000BASE-BX

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  • Avi Chami1
    Posted by Avi Chami1
    on May 30 2012 12:29 PM
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    1000BASE-BX is indeed for fiber communications

    If you need to implement in a backplane, consider using 1000BASE-T which has a long experience on backplanes, including base fabric for ATCA.

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  • Atul Patel
    Posted by Atul Patel
    on May 30 2012 17:15 PM
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    Wenjun,

    As mentioned before, 1000Base-BX is a part of the Gigabit Ethernet standard related to transmission over fiber optic cable.  Typically, the electrical serial data signal feeding the optical module is coming from a serializer/de-serializer (SerDes) device.  If  the SerDes is like TI's TLK2201B (1G Ethernet SerDes)  then the serial output of the SerDes can be driven over a backplane.  SerDes that  incorporate 1000BaseT functionality use multi-level signaling that is more optimal for cable based Ethernet links.

    Thanks,

    Atul Patel

    Texas Instruments

    1000Base-BX
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  • Wenjun Huang
    Posted by Wenjun Huang
    on May 31 2012 01:00 AM
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    Yes. Actually 1000BASE-BX is the Gigabit Ethernet protocol used for openVPX, VITA65, a backplane technology created by VITA committee. I m now trying to design a card that will provide 1000BASE-BX Ethernet that will be routed through the backplane to another card at a different slot.

    Does TI have a recommended Ethernet PHY for 1000BASE-BX?

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  • Nic Norbert
    Posted by Nic Norbert
    on Jul 12 2012 21:55 PM
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    Hello Atul & Wenjun, what was the solution for 1000BASE-BX on a VITA65 backplane.  Was a TLK2201B used?  Can two modules in a OpenVPX backplane interface directly using 1000BASE-BX without a PHY?  Thank you.

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  • Wenjun Huang
    Posted by Wenjun Huang
    on Jul 13 2012 05:09 AM
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    I am actually guessing that 1000BASE-X can be used for 1000BASE-BX since they are all fiber standard, uses 4 wires (2 pairs of differential signals) vs 8 wires for 1000BASE-T which is twisted pair interface.

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  • Nic Norbert
    Posted by Nic Norbert
    on Jul 13 2012 14:58 PM
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    Thanks. How should the physical interface be implemented across the backplane?  If they are SerDes, do I need a PHY on the BP or can I run the traces directly between modules? Unlike a traditional 1000BASE-BX interface, I do not intend to route the board traces to an SFP type interface. 

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  • Wenjun Huang
    Posted by Wenjun Huang
    on Jul 13 2012 22:41 PM
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    I think u will have 2 plug-in cards. Use 1000BASE-X PHYs on both the plug-in card. The backplane should be just routing. The connection is:

    MAC -> PHY -> VPX connector -> backplane -> VPX connector -> PHY -> MAC

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  • Avi Chami1
    Posted by Avi Chami1
    on Jul 14 2012 11:27 AM
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    I don't know of no case where an active backplane is used. Think that if any of the active elements in the backplane failed, you would have to disassemble all the cards to dismount the backplane, a huge time for system down and an operation that cannot be made at the field anyway. People think it twice even to include resistors or capacitors in a BP... active devices in a BP are 99% out of the question.

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