DS90UH925QSEVB: S-parameter measurement on the board

Guillaume Girod

Part Number: DS90UH925QSEVB

Hello,

I would like to get your point of view on the test method and tool for measuring the insertion loss and other S-parameters on such this FPDLink Eval board or other FPDLink boards.

For an accurate measurement, the VNA is the best solution, but for using it, we would need to add SMA at the closest level of the chip. Unfortunately adding such extra connector would cause impedance discontinuity and therefore negatively impacts signal integrity.

Do you agree with me?

What would be your recommendation to test those parameters? To use a time domain methods ? Do you have any test method or standard to provide?

Thank you for your support,

Regards,

Guillaume

over 5 years ago

0 Mike Leister over 5 years ago

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Hi Guillaume,

Time domain will have the same impedance discontinuity challenge.

I do the VNA SOLT calibration with the adaptors I need in place, so that the adapter effect is removed.

This requires a SOLT with SMA connectors & mating genders in your case. With this method you extend the calibration plane to the end of the SMA adapters and get an accurate measurement.

Mike

0 Guillaume Girod over 5 years ago in reply to Mike Leister

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Hi Mike,

Thank you for your answer.
I will reformulate a bit: if I kept the SMA connector, for sure, I will get the same impedance discontinuity challenge for any test method.

My idea was not add any SMA connector on the board for the measurement and, instead, to use another method to derive the Diff Insertion Loss from TDR measurement (SET2DIL) by using a 2-port measurement (so using the 2 Diff port of the Board connector) instead of the 4-port measurement (using the 2 Diff port of the Board connector and the 2 SMA connector port at the chip level).

Regards,

Guillaume

0 Mike Leister over 5 years ago in reply to Guillaume Girod

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Hi Guillaume,
This is a question for the VNA experts at www.keysight.com
Also, you might try contacting the engineer that wrote the DesignCon paper you shared.
If you have questions specific to our FPD-Link products, I can help with those.
Best regards,
Mike

0 Guillaume Girod over 5 years ago in reply to Mike Leister

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Hi Mike,

Thank you for your advise. I will contact them.

Regards,

Guillaume

0 Mike Leister over 5 years ago in reply to Mike Leister

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Hi Guillaume,

Please close this unless you have further questions about TI parts.

Mike

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