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TLIN1029-Q1: external components selection

Part Number: TLIN1029-Q1

Hello team,

I have some questions about the TCAN1029-Q1 application: 

1. What the recommended value of R2, R6, and C1?

2. Do we need a series resistor to limit the current of RXD?

3. What's the recommended value of C3 in master mode? Customer use TJA1021 before, they have a different value in master and slave mode. Could you also let me know why you choose 220pF or 1nF?

4. According to d/s, a 100nF capacitor is recommended for decoupling. Are 1uF and 10uF capacitor required? And Why? 

5. What's the difference between master mode and slave mode? Why we need an external pull-up resistor and diode in master mode?

Thanks.

Dongbao

  • Hi Dongbao,

    It is currently a holiday weekend in the US, but we will get back to you regarding these questions on Tuesday. Thanks for your patience.

    Max
  • Dongbao,

    Thank you for bringing these questions to our attention, I am happy to help.

    1. R6 is used to limit the current into the pin, so a 10k resistor will work. C1 is to shunt any high frequency noise and to slow down the edges a small amount to help with emissions, and 15pF is a good value for this. Going up to 50-100pF is okay too, but when you start getting higher you will slow down the rising edges too much and cause communication problems. For R2, how will the EN pin be used? Connected to a microcontroller? R2 isn't completely necessary, though it is recommended, and will be dependent on the R3 value.

    2. This isn't necessary, unless there is worry about the current limit of the device attached to RXD. This is a low-current, low-voltage output, so it shouldn't cause problems and need the current to be limited.

    3. The value of C3 is dependent on the R8 value. For a 1k pull-up resistor at R8, the value for C3 is 220pF, and this is specified in the LIN standard. 1nF is only used for certain parameter testing of the LIN pin, and isn't used in applications.

    4. 100nF is good for high frequency decoupling, but because VSUP is connected to the battery, it's good to have high "bulk" capacitance on the line as well. This helps with lower frequency noise, but also keeps the voltage seen by the VSUP pin at a suitable level for operation in case another part of the application (another ECU in the vehicle) pulls a large amount of current from the battery and causes the voltage level to dip. 1uF and 10uF help in these cases, and are therefore recommended along with the 100nF.

    5. Master and slave mode identify how the communication scheme will be set up in each LIN cluster. The Master device controls the LIN bus while all the Slave devices respond to the Master's requests and messages. The Master node needs an external pull-up and diode to be able to deliver more current to multiple devices on the LIN bus, thus it has a stronger pull-up (lower resistance equals higher current). The diode is to help protect from any reverse voltage spikes from the battery line to the LIN bus. For slave mode, the resistor and diode are integrated into the transceiver itself, which is why it is not necessary to have those external components.

    Please let me know if you have any other questions or issues, and let me know if you can give me answer for my question in part 1.

    Regards,

  • Hi Eric,

    Thanks for your reply.
    EN is connected to MCU directly, and the pull-up resistor recommended in d/s is 1-10K.

    Dongbao
  • Dongbao,

    Understood, because the EN pin is being driven by an MCU, R3 is not needed, and R2 is only needed if current needs to be limited in cased of a voltage spike. If the customer is going to use R2, a 10k resistor will be sufficient.

    Regards,