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difference between SN 74HC60 cd74hc4060

difference between SN 74HC60 cd74hc4060

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patrice caslot
Posted by patrice caslot
on Oct 18 2010 09:15 AM
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1464.sn 74hc4060.docx

 

We have a probleme with the SN 74HC60.

We use it as a counter. with an rc oscillator. The freq on pin 9 is about  157hz

We have not a good stability on signal on Q4(pin7).

R2=510k on pin 11

R1=270k on pin 10

C=10nF on pin 9

When we use another component (the 74HC4060) ther's no problem with these values.

 

Is there  limits on components R1,R2,C for the SN 74HC60

Patrice

 

 

 

 

 

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  • patrice caslot
    Posted by patrice caslot
    on Oct 18 2010 10:28 AM
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    patrice caslot

    1464.sn 74hc4060.docx

    the yellow is the freq in pin 9

    the red signal is the bad signal en pin7. It should be Q4=Pin7=freq 157hz/16 !

    We have a probleme with the SN 74HC60.

    We use it as a counter. with an rc oscillator. The freq on pin 9 is about  157hz

    We have not a good stability on signal on Q4(pin7).

    R2=510k on pin 11

    R1=270k on pin 10

    C=10nF on pin 9

    When we use another component (the 74HC4060) ther's no problem with these values.

     

    Is there  limits on components R1,R2,C for the SN 74HC60

    Patrice

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • Chris Cockrill
    Posted by Chris Cockrill
    on Oct 18 2010 10:31 AM
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    Hi Patrice

       We do not make a 74HC60 that I can find.

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  • patrice caslot
    Posted by patrice caslot
    on Oct 19 2010 02:20 AM
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    Hi chris

    Im' sorry it's the 74HC4060 !

    Here is the two datasheet of the component we use from texas

    The oscillator is ok with the cd74HC4060

    It is bad with the SN74HC4060

     

     

     

    2677.sn74hc4060.pdf

     

    5775.texas instruments cd74HC4060E.pdf

     

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  • Chris Cockrill
    Posted by Chris Cockrill
    on Oct 19 2010 09:17 AM
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    hc4060.xls

    In general there are almost no differences between the SN and CD devices. However this is the only one I know of that truly shows a difference. Looking at the attached waveforme it looks like the CD device has very weak or unbuffered outputs while the SN device shows sharp edges and shows to be buffered.

    So even though they function the same their outputs characteristics are different.

     

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  • patrice caslot
    Posted by patrice caslot
    on Oct 19 2010 10:34 AM
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    The real problem is that the sn component don't do his job. He don't follow his logic diagram which is in the page 2 of the data sheet.The yellow signal show the pin 9 (clock0) and the red signal show the pin 7(QD) .QD should be clk0/16 ! and he is not!.There s an anstability we don't explain!

    Patrice

     

     

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