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about UCD9222+UCD7242 configuration with usb adapter

about UCD9222+UCD7242 configuration with usb adapter

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Huailong Qi
Posted by Huailong Qi
on Mar 27 2012 01:59 AM
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hello,

as the topic, we did it with the software-TI-Fusion-Digital-Power-Designer,

now, we get the result, in condition of no load , the Iout is 10A+,is it correct?

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  • Brad
    Posted by Brad
    on Mar 28 2012 05:51 AM
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    Without load on the UCD7242 you would not see zero current because the current sensing canout resolve the negative portion of the current ripple through the inductor.

    But it should only be reporting a small amount, much less than 10A+.

    Can you attach the project file (.xml), with the Design section completed, and can you provide the value of the resistor you have attached to the UCD7242's IMON pin to ground?

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  • Huailong Qi
    Posted by Huailong Qi
    on Mar 28 2012 23:55 PM
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    6131.4_ctrl pin.xml

    hello Brad,

    now, after we adjust the configuration, now the current is reduced to about 6A. but the rail#1 is always changing, sometimes there is no output voltage on rail 1.

    please help me check whether somewhere of the configuration file is wrong.

    the resistor of the IMON to GND is 8.8M;

    the connection of the rail 2 is same as the rail 1, but the results are diffirent.

    and after configurate the chip, how to use the hardware to trigger the start instead of using the "always converting"

    Is “control pin only” mean only the pin of the chip ENA1&ENA2 is used to control the initial? Does other else pin control it? 

    thank you ,Brad

    best regards

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  • Brad
    Posted by Brad
    on Apr 03 2012 10:58 AM
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    1.  The Project file schematic, used to generate configuration parameters, indicates that the resistor to ground between IMON output and CS input is 10K ohms and the IOUT_CAL_GAIN reflects this in the project file, 200mohms.  If the resistor is actually 8.8M then this is what is causing the CLF error reported in the GUI, CLF = Current Limit Flag relates to the FAST_OC_FAULT_LIMIT.

     

     

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  • Brad
    Posted by Brad
    on Apr 03 2012 11:09 AM
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    Not sure what happened to the rest of my previous post but here it is again.

    2.  I am assuming that the changing referred to is the output voltage, with 6-bit VID enabled have you checked to see if the VID lines are causing the output to vary.  Also, turning off  VID will cause the output to be fixed to the VOUT_COMMAND setting of 0.9V which should allow you to determine if VID is the issue.

    3.  The UCD9222 has the PMBus_CNTRL pin like the other UCD92xx controllers but it also has two enable lines, EN1 and EN2.  The active state for the enable lines follow the active state of the PMBus_CNTRL pin and both the control and enable pins for a rail need to be active for the rail to start.

    Here is the GUI schematic section from your project file that shows 10K ohm resistor between IMON pin and ground.

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  • Huailong Qi
    Posted by Huailong Qi
    on Apr 05 2012 09:57 AM
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    ok, thank you Brad.

    as your guidance, we work out the problem after adjusting the Cs and Rcs. Now we got the correct  Vout and Iout.

    thank you very much for your kindness and help.

    Have a good day.^_^

     

    best regards

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  • Huailong Qi
    Posted by Huailong Qi
    on May 10 2012 21:01 PM
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    hello, Brad

    today, we changed a bead followed the UCD7242, and something wrong happened  to the voltage. The rail1 can't output the voltage. But the rail2 is OK.

    the fault is "FLT". we confirm that the bead is good.The other circuit elements and the configuration file  are not changed never. what's the reason to cause this?

    and how can I resolve it? By the way ,the rail#1 and the rail# 2 are connected as the same method. and their external circuit elements are also the same.

    Thank you very much.

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  • Brad
    Posted by Brad
    on May 11 2012 15:39 PM
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    An FLT reported from the Fusion GUI is an indication that the driver experienced a issue which requires that the rail be shutdown.

    For the UCD7242, an FLT can be triggered for one of following conditions:

    1.  High side mosfet over current fault.

    2.  The UCD7242 die temperature exceeds 170C, this should create an FLT response on both halves of the UCD7242.

    I would check Rail#1 SW node to see if it might be shorted to ground.

    I assume that the bead you are refering to is actually the power inductor/choke connected to the SW node.

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  • Huailong Qi
    Posted by Huailong Qi
    on May 13 2012 20:12 PM
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    hello,

    thanks Brad.

    The bead is actually the power inductor/choke connected to the SW node.

    I checked the Rail#1 SW node and confirm it is not short to ground.

    In this case, any other reasons will cause this fault?

    You know,   the rail#1 is the same as the rail#2 in every aspect except the output.

    now, I plan to change the chip to try it again.

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  • Brad
    Posted by Brad
    on May 15 2012 12:39 PM
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    Its possible that the inductor value you chose allows the peak current at start-up to exceed the high side current threshold of the UCD7242.

    It may be that this value is marginal and works for one rail but not the other and/or the actual value of the inductor on the bad rail is to the low end of its tolerance or the wrong value.

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  • Huailong Qi
    Posted by Huailong Qi
    on May 18 2012 03:12 AM
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    HI, Brad,

         After we changed the chips (ucd9222&ucd7242) for the now ones,  the power of the dsp core is right now.

    I also think that the problem is on short-circuit.

    Thank you very much.

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