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ucc28070 output voltage unstable

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Luo zhidan
Posted by Luo zhidan
on Apr 04 2012 03:40 AM
Prodigy125 points

recently design P.S with this IC, after i power-on , the output voltage is varying , from my setting 380V slowly drop to 372V, then IC function to give pulse to boost output again back to 380, of course, it will overshoot to around 390V. i try to adjust voltage loop, but it seems not working.  does anybody meet same problem before? thanks, anyone can give me some suggestion. 

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  • CWilson
    Posted by CWilson
    on Apr 04 2012 05:41 AM
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    What is your load and output capacitance?

    What is your input voltage and frequency (AC, RMS)?

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  • Luo zhidan
    Posted by Luo zhidan
    on Apr 04 2012 06:40 AM
    Prodigy125 points

    thanks.

    i havent put any load.  Cout is 680uFx3, nearly 2mF

    input voltage from 100~240  fsw=50Khz , and inductor i give 360uH for each phrase. 

    any critical parameter need ?  

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  • John Bottrill
    Posted by John Bottrill
    on Apr 04 2012 08:09 AM
    Mastermind25130 points

    Luo,

    Pleaee send the schematic and scope shots of the performance.

    Regards,

    John

    John Bottrill

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  • Luo zhidan
    Posted by Luo zhidan
    on Apr 04 2012 23:27 PM
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    hi John

    thanks for your reply. 

    i have fixed this problem by increase capacitor of Vsense and Vinac, use 3.3nF capacitor connected between each pin and GND.

    now the problem is load.......

    i have monitored  Vsense, can see some 25hz noisy there. i am trying to reduce it. later i post waveform.

    any suggestion for load debug ? thank you

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  • John Bottrill
    Posted by John Bottrill
    on Apr 05 2012 07:54 AM
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    Luo,

    I Would still need to see the schematic before I could offer advise on how to fix the supply.

    John

    John Bottrill

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  • Luo zhidan
    Posted by Luo zhidan
    on Apr 07 2012 02:53 AM
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    Prodigy125 points

    1.Rimo=20k   Rsyn=150k  c18=c2=3.3nf   c5=2,2nf  c20=10nf   Rrt=150k Rdmax=120k,  all other paramete remains same. my CT is 200:1

    the pin color is feedback signal,  at no load condition.

    thanks, John

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  • Mike 1414007
    Posted by Mike 1414007
    on Apr 09 2012 10:10 AM
    Mastermind18175 points

    Under no load and light load conditions if you don't have enough boost capacitance you could be hitting OVP.  Also if you have to much boost ripple voltage you could be tripping the slew rate comparator for an under voltage.  This is when Vsense is below 2.8V you can see this comparator in the block diagram on page 10.  We recommend that the boost ripple voltage be less than 5%.  http://www.ti.com/lit/gpn/ucc28070  You might want to check the amount of output capacitance in your design with the excel design tool. http://www.ti.com/litv/zip/sluc114

     

     

     

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  • Luo zhidan
    Posted by Luo zhidan
    on Apr 10 2012 09:43 AM
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    hi M OLoughlin, i had checked my Capacitance, its enough for 5% ripple.

    my problem now is load, i have tried parameters from excel design tool, but it doesn't work. now i am trying to tune it. 

    here i put some waveforms , if you can help me to figure out the problem. 

    pink color is Vinac, is this one accepted or not? when load, it will become better.

    green is feedback, has some oscillation.

    pink and green is from pin CAO,

    yellow is input current, oscillation there. cannot go high load.

    much thanks. 

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  • Mike 1414007
    Posted by Mike 1414007
    on Apr 10 2012 14:31 PM
    Mastermind18175 points

    Your VINAC pin looks heavily filtered but should be able to work.

    When I look at your waveforms it looks like the voltage loop/and or the current loop are not compensated correctly.  I agree with you that it is breaking into an oscillation of some sort.  You need to double check your voltage loop and current loops.  The voltage loop should cross over at roughly 10 to 20 Hz.  If you used the excel design tool it would have calculated the proper voltage loop compensation.  http://www.ti.com/litv/zip/sluc114  It also gives a good idea on how to compensate the current loop.  The excel design tool does go along with a pretty good application note which you can find at the following link http://www.ti.com/litv/pdf/slua479b

    It might be worth while to get a hold of 300W EVM to evaluate you should be able to order one from the TI web site.http://www.ti.com/tool/ucc28070evm  This way if you needed to you can evaluate the voltage amplifier and current amplifier to see how it behaves.

    I found your schematics and waveforms hard to read in the forum post.  In the future can you send them in a PDF so they can be blown up and evaluated easier?

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