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David McLean
Posted by David McLean
on Apr 09 2012 23:13 PM
Prodigy20 points

I'm looking to make a DC/DC conversion with:

an input range of 8V to 20V

output of 12V

and output current of 60A

Am I able to use a SEPIC to do this?  If not, why not?

What would be the most economical way to do this?

I have some flexibility in my output current requirement ... I'm trying to find a direction for the best approach to get high current though.

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  • John Bottrill
    Posted by John Bottrill
    on Apr 10 2012 08:06 AM
    Mastermind25130 points

    David,

    That power level is 720 watts out of the converter.

    The RMS current in the capacitors would require too much capacitance to be practical.

    I don't know if you have an isolation requirement, I am going to suggest that you use a phase shifted full bridge converter. Look at the UCC28950 converter for the controller but you will need an internal house keeping supply. A small flyback should work there.  Choose a converter with a minimum start-up voltage below the 8V to generate the required internal house keeping voltage. The UCC3800 family has parts that operate to below 5 volts.  

    Regards,

    John

    John Bottrill

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  • David McLean
    Posted by David McLean
    on Apr 11 2012 13:32 PM
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    Isolation is a soft requirement.  Cost constraints are dominant.

    I don't see any handy application references for the UCC28950 with a DC V input that varies above and below the V ouput.  I also don't see much that provides a high output current.

    It also looks like it will be much more expensive than the SEPIC solutions (per Watt).  I'm hesitant to invest too much time into design variations with something that seems expensive.  Can you point to some kind of circuit that is similar to what I'm looking to achieve so that I can put together a preliminary BOM cost?

    Thanks for your suggestion regardless of availability of more information.

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  • dragan svalina
    Posted by dragan svalina
    on Apr 14 2012 22:02 PM
    Intellectual410 points

    Hi David,

    This is nonisolated solution. Works grate in wide  input voltage rang. LTC3789 and LTC3780.

    Dragan

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  • John Bottrill
    Posted by John Bottrill
    on Apr 16 2012 08:39 AM
    Mastermind25130 points
    UC3827-2.pdf

    David,

    Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I was trying to see what other options would be available. The problem is that you need a converter that can convert a voltage both up and down and when the input is equal to the output short the input to the output. Without switching the charge on the "shorted switches" will dissipate and the shorted switches will become open. With switching you will be both bucking and boosting the voltage at the same time. This could create some interesting control problems.

    In my opinion best choise at the power levels that you are talking about would be to use a UC2827-2. This provides a buck regulator followed by what is effectively a buss converter.

    I've drawn the power section that I would start with using the buck portion to drop the input voltage to about 6 volts and then boosting it either in a push-pull configuration to 12 volts on the output or an auto-transformer configuration to achieve the same results.

     

     

    John Bottrill

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