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Issues with TPS92510 "popping" and failing while running near its upper limits

I have been experiencing what seems to be a high voltage failure while attempting to drive a 58V string of leds at 1.2A (4 parallel strings of 24 LEDs which should run nominally at 58V, 300mA per string).

On my first revision, I ran 2 strings of 24 (58V @ 600mA total) with no issue.  However, when I modified the current sense resistor to run at 1.2A and attached 2 more strings, the leds will turn on for a few seconds, but then the driver makes a "POP!" sound and the board dies.  Also, a small chip of the corner of the driver package will occasionally break off near pins 1 and 2 during the failure.  I have tried running it at both 500kHz and 1000kHz, just for kicks, but it doesn't appear to have any effect on the issue.  

I put the power supply on a variac and brought the voltage up gradually, and I can get the leds to drive at about 56V @ 750-850mA, but if I take it up any further, the failure occurs.  I don't have any thermal measuring equipment, but my first thought was that it could be overheating, but I am able to place a fingertip directly onto the driver and, while it gets pretty warm to the touch, it never gets hot enough to "burn" my skin.  I assume that if this was a thermal issue, the chip would be way too hot to touch.  Also, if I have Vin set at 60VDC, and turn it on, the chip pops immediately without ever even getting a chance to "warm up", which is part of the reason I feel this is a high voltage (arcing) issue, and not thermal.

I removed the hysteresis resistors from my design as I didn't deem them necessary, but is there something about the part that requires this?  Another thing worth noting is that I used the same component values for loop compensation used in the evaluation design from the datasheet.  This is my first venture into switching power supplies, and I am not very familiar with loop compensation or its theory.  Could this be the reason for my failures?  Is this circuitry critically necessary?

I've attached my layout below.  The red dots are approximate positions of thermal vias (they weren't visible on the exported files, so I added these by hand).

Thanks in advance for any insight anyone can provide me with this problem.

-Zack K

  • Hi Zack,

    I have forwarded this on to someone more familiar with this device. Hope to get some feedback soon.

    Regards,

  • Hi John,

    Any updates?  Thanks for looking into this!

    Zack K.

  • Zack:

     

       Please check the PH pin waveform with full bandwidth to see if the turn on voltage spike higher than 65V. The maximum voltage rating on this pin is 65V.

     

    David Zhang

    Applications Engineer

    Lighting Power Products

    Texas Instruments

  • David, I believe I have traced the issue back to the capacitors being underrated (low capacitance) on the primary power supply.  After re-examining the hardware, I have calculated the capacitance to be about 1/10th of what would be required to provide stable DC to the regulator with the current I am drawing.  So while I was turning the variac up to read 60VDC in while the circuit was under load, the actual DC in had a ripple voltage of greater than 8VDC, meaning I was reading an average of 60V, but in reality, it is swinging between ~56VDC and 64VDC.

    I have ordered some new hardware, and will post back when I verify or debunk my theory.  Thanks for the response!