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pSpice simulation models for LM5009A and LM5008A

pSpice simulation models for LM5009A and LM5008A

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BALAJI SUNDARARAJAN
Posted by BALAJI SUNDARARAJAN
on Jun 13 2012 02:32 AM
Prodigy30 points

Hi

I am working on a buck converter using LM5009A and LM5008A.

But the pSpice simulation model for the above ICs are not available in TI website.

Can anyone help me to get the pspice simulation library or models for LM5008A and LM5009A. I tried in the list of models and librarires available in TI website, the model/library for LM5009A and LM5008A are not available.

 

 

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  • Frank De Stasi
    Posted by Frank De Stasi
    on Jun 13 2012 12:33 PM
    Intellectual1705 points

    I will forward this to out webench guys and see if they can help.

    Frank D

     

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  • Akshay Mehta
    Posted by Akshay Mehta
    on Jun 13 2012 12:44 PM
    Expert4105 points

    Hello Balaji,

    We do not have PSpice models for the LM5008 and LM5009. But those parts are enabled in Webench with simulation support. You could run those sims in Webench.

    Regards,
    Akshay 

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  • BALAJI SUNDARARAJAN
    Posted by BALAJI SUNDARARAJAN
    on Jun 14 2012 09:27 AM
    Prodigy30 points

    Hi Akshay

    Thaks for your suggestion. :)

    Yes of course, I can use Webench, I also tried it, but It will be better to simulate in Pspice, in which we can check the input current waveform during starting and such things. The Pspice model for LM5007 is available, So Can you help me in arriving at LM5008 by modifying it?

    Regards

    Balaji S

     

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  • Akshay Mehta
    Posted by Akshay Mehta
    on Jun 14 2012 13:06 PM
    Expert4105 points

    Hello Balaji,

    My team as such does not have the capability to convert Pspice models. I will forward your request to the right channels to see if they have this project planned or in queue.

    Regards,
    Akshay 

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  • Vijay Choudhary86929
    Posted by Vijay Choudhary86929
    on Jun 15 2012 11:00 AM
    Expert3490 points

    There is a TINA spice model of LM5009/A on the web. It has been uploaded recently. Should find link on this website.

    http://www.ti.com/product/LM5009A

     

    Thanks and regards,

    Vijay 

     

     

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  • BALAJI SUNDARARAJAN
    Posted by BALAJI SUNDARARAJAN
    on Jun 17 2012 00:33 AM
    Prodigy30 points

    Hi Vijay

    The TINA model can be used only in TINA not in Pspice. Right? I am looking for Pspice model for LM5009A and LM5008A

    And one more clarification, in your LM5007 model test bench, the input voltage raises from zero and reaches 50 V with a delay of 100u. What if I give a DC voltage which starts from 50 V without the turn ON delay.?

    Regards

    Balaji

     

     

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  • Frieder Kloster1
    Posted by Frieder Kloster1
    on Aug 07 2012 03:53 AM
    Prodigy30 points

    Hello,

    I have tried the simulation with LM5008 but when the simulation had finished there is no Vout Graph. Vswitch is only a few volts. I had used standard parameters. Is the simulation for this device stable?

    Best regards

    Frieder

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  • Howard Chen-WEBENCH Design Center
    Posted by Howard Chen-WEBENCH Design Center
    on Aug 07 2012 19:43 PM
    Intellectual1075 points

    Hello Frieder,

    I apologize that the WEBENCH simulations for LM5008 and LM5009 were not working correctly.   I have looked into the issue and have corrected the problem. You should be able to sim the devices without any issues.  

    Again, I apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for letting us know that the sims were broken.

     

    Regards,

    Howard

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  • Howard Chen-WEBENCH Design Center
    Posted by Howard Chen-WEBENCH Design Center
    on Aug 07 2012 20:02 PM
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    Hello Frieder,

    I'm sorry that the fixes won't be avail until tomorrow when the software gets its update.  

    Regards,

    Howard

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  • Frieder Kloster1
    Posted by Frieder Kloster1
    on Aug 08 2012 05:36 AM
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    Hello Howard,

    thank you for your fast response. I tried the simulation again and the Vout waveform is now available after the simulation.

    I used the standard parameters 12V-95V with 10V and 0.3A (30°). I tried the "Startup Simulation" but Vout only reaches 0.25V and not 10V.

    Regards,

    Frieder

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  • Howard Chen-WEBENCH Design Center
    Posted by Howard Chen-WEBENCH Design Center
    on Aug 08 2012 15:36 PM
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    Hello Frieder,

    The software was just updated this morning. Attached is a sample of the working startup sim.

    1778.LM5008 Sim.pdf

    Regards,

    Howard

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  • Frieder Kloster1
    Posted by Frieder Kloster1
    on Aug 09 2012 01:16 AM
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    Hello Howard,

    here is a simulation with the LM5008. The feedback resistors are 6.19k and 1k for a 18V output. In the file you can see that Vout only reaches 11V.

    5756.Simulation LM5008 23-75V 18V 0.2A.pdf

     

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  • Howard Chen-WEBENCH Design Center
    Posted by Howard Chen-WEBENCH Design Center
    on Aug 09 2012 20:19 PM
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    Hello Frieder,

    Thank you.  I may know why the sim output is not reaching the desired Vout.  It's caused by the incorrect resistive load.  I'll update the circuit calculator tomorrow.

    You can see the good results if the resistive load is changed to 90 ohm for startup.

    Regards,

    Howard

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