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LM5020 SEPIC works but the Q1 voltage is not flat - it has a sinusoidal envelope

LM5020 SEPIC works but the Q1 voltage is not flat - it has a sinusoidal envelope

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Paul R
Posted by Paul R
on Aug 08 2012 23:37 PM
Prodigy30 points

I have a SEPIC converter  for 12 to 48V in 36V 3A out, based on a LM5020 controller running at 100KHz.

It's prototyped using separate 80uH inductors, a 10uF coupling cap,  680uF on input and output, a 0.025Ohm sense resistor with a 300 Ohm / 1000 pF filter.  Compensation is arbitrary 100pF with 3.3K - 1000pF.  This is my first SEPIC design.

At low input voltages and reasonable load (about 400mA) I see a sinusoidal envelope on the Q1 voltage (it is still switching at 100kHz), as follows - with 12V input the calculated Q1 voltage should be about 48V but I see a 4KHz 15V P-P sine wave around the nominal value. 

If I increase the coupling cap from 10uF to 20uF the sine wave goes away unless I increase the load again.  I have tinkered with the compensation and current sense filter without observable effect.

I'm at a loss.  10uF is adequate according to Power Stage Designer.  Can anyone explain what is going on?

Thanks

LM5020 SEPIC stability
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  • Terry Allinder
    Posted by Terry Allinder
    on Aug 09 2012 10:25 AM
    Intellectual1810 points

    Paul,

    Can you send me your schematic, I'll look it over.

    Terry

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  • Paul R
    Posted by Paul R
    on Aug 09 2012 12:11 PM
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    It's a scan of a hand drawn schematic.  It's a little bit light but it looks readable on my machine.  First time attaching a file....

    4370.08091200.PDF

    Let me know if anything isn't clear.

    Thanks Terry. 

    Paul

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  • Terry Allinder
    Posted by Terry Allinder
    on Aug 09 2012 12:50 PM
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    Paul,

    I'm not a SEPIC expert, so I'm not sure why your seeing the low frequency oscillation, other than a loop problem or resonance.  My recommendation is to use a LM5118 which is a Buck-Boost controller, it will do the same thing, and you will find that it is much easier and less expensive to implement. I have attached the data sheet.

    Terry

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  • Paul R
    Posted by Paul R
    on Aug 09 2012 14:43 PM
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    Tried that first.  Blew up two devices (they are hard to replace) and probably some other parts on the board so I gave up on it.

    As a separate subject  - I tried using the 5118 evaluation board and found it extremely difficult to modify which seems sad because it didn't need to be.  Had the designer allowed a little more space, access to heat up pads for soldering, and maybe options to install some different sized parts it would have been a lot more useful.

    I do like the SEPIC topology, the numbers look good, the stress is low, it seems to perform ok.  Is there anyone there who is a SEPIC expert?

    Thanks, Paul

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