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TPS65930 RTC backup mode is not working when VBAT is removed.

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chanho min
Posted by chanho min
on Mar 05 2010 02:48 AM
Prodigy50 points

I'm working on OMAP3530 with TPS65930.

Our system doesn't have battery and VBAT is suppied by AC-DC adaptor.

Coin battery,ML-414RM/F9ME is connected with BKBAT directly and Measurd voltage is about  2.5V.

RTC doesn't keep the time when powered on by re-plugging adaptor ( I had hardly unplugged adaptor when I plugged it again).

I checked some register when power on.

-  STS_BOOT's BACKUP bit is 0

- RTC_STATUS_REG's POWER_UP bit is 1

From this result, I think system coudn't trasit to BACKUP mode when VBAT is removed and RTC reset is occured.

BKBAT is holding it's votage to 2.5V when VBAT is 0.

Please, post any idea for this.

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

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  • Gandhar Dighe
    Posted by Gandhar Dighe
    on Mar 05 2010 16:23 PM
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    Hi,

    This should not happen. Have you tried checking STOP_ON in RTC_CTRL_REG. If the RTC is ON this should be '1'. 

    BACKUP should also be '1' as you have 2.5V on that pin. Does the backup voltage go low for a short period? You may want to continuously probe it when you remove VBAT.

    Also, check what is MSECURE, this should be high for RTC to function.

     

    Regards,

    Gandhar.

     

    Regards,
    Gandhar

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  • chanho min
    Posted by chanho min
    on Mar 06 2010 00:46 AM
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    Hi, Gandhar Dighe.

    Very Thank you!

    I found backup voltage is dropped when VBAT is removed.

    If BKBAT is supplied by DC Power Supply, RTC backup function is OK.

    But, We still don't have any idea for BKBAT's drop.

    Regards,

     

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  • Gandhar Dighe
    Posted by Gandhar Dighe
    on Mar 08 2010 15:09 PM
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    Hi,

    This is also a strange observation. What is the VBAT level and DC supply you use?

    Can you provide the above levels with the corresponding BKBAT levels you see.

     

    Regards,

    Gandhar.

     

    Regards,
    Gandhar

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  • Hui Ye
    Posted by Hui Ye
    on Dec 29 2011 03:34 AM
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    Hi

    I meet similar situation now. I used ML414R as backup battery, which is rechargable. And find the RTC of some device didn't work when VBAT is "taken away". The BKBAT drop down to 1.2V for about 10ms. We set CFG_BOOT CK32K_LOWPWR_EN to 1, this can extend backup battery time, but cannot help the "abnormal" board.

    The 32.768K crystal clock always run in full scale, amplitude is 800mV, when VBAT or BKBAT supply the crystal. Seems the RTC load is "large" to BKBAT(ML414R), that cause the "drop".  We add a 0.1uF capacitance on BKBAT, it helps little, BKBAT drop to 1.4V.

    Is there any other register settings or  method to reduce the "inrush" current?

     

    sincere

    Elton Ye

    65950 BKBAT
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  • Alexis Piton
    Posted by Alexis Piton
    on Jan 03 2012 04:30 AM
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    Hi elton,

    At 2.5V, ML414R is fully discharged then the observed dip is totally normal.

    Default end of charge voltage in the PMIC backup battery charger is 2.5V. You need to change this value to 3.1V to fully charge ML414R.

    End of charger threshold is configurable through  BB_CFG registers,  BBSEL bits.

     

    Regards,

    Alexis

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  • Jason Su
    Posted by Jason Su
    on Apr 26 2012 23:04 PM
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    Hi Alexis

    Base on the TRM file of TPS65950, if I want use the RTC function which should be setting the STOP_RTC bit to 1.

    But I also checked the Table 3-58 RTC_CTRL_REG, I saw the STOP_RTC bit was read only.

    I have some confused on enable RTC function.

    Would you please kindly tell me the correct enable step?

    Thank you very much.

    TPS65950 RTC
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  • santosh vastrad
    Posted by santosh vastrad
    on Jul 20 2012 06:17 AM
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    HI all:

    We are using :

    Processor : AM3703

    PMIC : TPS65930

    I'm testing RTC_backup battery!

    We made secure to 1 ; so now it's in unsecure mode, all registers can be read/written!

    But i'm unable to write any of the register,

    And also checked default values are not proper as my knowledge!

    RTC_CTRL_REG : 0x00 // RTC should be running : But it's not happening?

    RTC_STATUS_REG : 0x00 // power reset should happen : But it's not happening?

    RTC_INTERRUPTS_REG : 0x00

    Can anyone please help me, what configuraiton i'm missing to make RTC working?

    Regards,

    santosh vastrad

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  • Alexis Piton
    Posted by Alexis Piton
    on Jul 20 2012 07:05 AM
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    santosh,

     

    RTC_CTRL_REG bit 0 must be set to "1" to have the RTC running.

     

    please refer to TPS65930 TRM

    http://www.ti.com/litv/pdf/swcu052g

    Regards,

    Alexis

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  • santosh vastrad
    Posted by santosh vastrad
    on Jul 23 2012 01:15 AM
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    Hi Alexis,

    Even i tried by wriitng in 1st bit for RTC to run,

    then set the minutes register, but still i'm reading values 0 only!!!!!!!!!

    suggest me write way of configuration for setting time and date for RTC?

    Regards,

    santosh vastrad

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  • santosh vastrad
    Posted by santosh vastrad
    on Jul 23 2012 02:35 AM
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    HI all:

    I'm able to write into RTC registers now,

    But not saw any type of updating Time registers,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    So i'm near to solve the issue, please anyone tell me what's missing?

    Regards,

    santosh vastrad

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  • santosh vastrad
    Posted by santosh vastrad
    on Jul 23 2012 06:39 AM
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    Hello guys,

    The issue is solved,

    OOOps!

    wrong register address used!

    It 's working fine now!!!!!

    Regards,

    santosh vastrad

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