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Problem using LM5069, the Voltage Hot Swap / Inrush Current Controller

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: LM5069

I used the  LM5069-2 as a current limiter & circuit breaker for my board base on 24VDC supply.Schematic posted was based on the reference design from the datasheet of LM5069-2 .

The inrush current of the board is limited to 55mV/0.05 =1.1 A,which is defined from the application note.

Choose the upper UVLO threshold (VUVH), and the lower UVLO threshold (VUVL).VUVH = 11.45 V and VUVL = 9.95 V,with a hysteresis of 1.5 V.

Choose the upper OVLO threshold (VOVH),and the lower OVLO threshold (VOVL).Therefore, VOVH = 34.27 V and VOVL = 32.27 V, with a hysteresis of 2 V.

Power  limitation function for the external series MOSFET  is disabed ,as shown in the schematic.

Everything work well when powered by the linear regulated power supply,but when i connect the board in series with the surge/transient  test system before transient test, it starts to oscillate at the testpoint (TP1),illustrated from the image.As a result,the LM5069 doesn't switch on at all.

What's going on?

  • Hi Xiao,

    This device falls under the power interface forum.  I will go ahead and move this post.

    Thanks,

    Alek Kaknevicius

  • Hi Xiao,

    Welcome to the E2E Forums! I have just returned from the US Thanksgiving Holiday and am backed up with work. I can take a closer look at this tomorrow and get back to you with initial feedback.

    Thanks!
    Alex
  • Hi Xiao,

    Based on the waveform, it looks like the device is cycling on/off.

    When the device initially turns on, it will appear like a current load step.

    Due to the amount of inductance from the surge generator, the circuit will appear to be like an LC circuit with a load step.

    This will cause oscillations like shown above. When the LM5069 turns on, the input capacitors (C2, C3, C4, C5) are insufficient to sustain the power going to charge the output capacitors. The supply from the test generator is getting blocked by the input inductors. So the capacitor C5 will collapse and turn off the LM5069. You can see from the negative peak of the oscillation, it dips below the LM5069's UVLO and the LM5069 may shut down at this point. Then the LC ringing should dampen (which they appear to do). However, once they begin to dampen, we see they begin again. This may be the point where the LM5069 turns back on and injects another load step.

    So this cycle will continue to repeat and the LM5069 turn on and off.

    If you take a waveform of: VIN pin of the LM5069 IC, GATE, UVLO then we can double check that this is the behavior.

    A couple of potential options to get around this:

    1. Bypass the inductors (with a wire) in order for the LM5069 to turn on. Then remove the bypass wire and begin the surge test.

    2. Increasing the capacitance of C5 may help sustain the LM5069 VIN to not collapse when turning on.

    Thanks,
    Alex
  • Appreciate it!it is impractical to modify the circuit  right now,but i will  take extra measurement later and try what you recommended .

    I have no choice but to replace the LM5069 by one Resettable PTC in the field to pass the test.

  • I understand Xiao, thanks for considering the LM5069!

    Just wondering, can you provide information on which IEC/EN surge test you are trying to pass with the USC500N7.2 tester you are using?

    Thanks!

    Alex

  • Comply with IEC61000-4-5 Standard for surge immunity test , thanks
  • Hi Xio,

    I am working on the similar application. May I know what level of surge immunity you would like to test?

    What other IEC or EMC tests you would like the circuit to pass?

    Regards,
    Venkata
  • Hi Xio and Venkata,

    You can check out this TI Reference Design which uses the LM5050 + LM5069 to provide a complete short circuit, reverse polarity, surge protection (IEC61000-4-5) EVM which can also detect and shut off reverse current.

    Thanks!

    Alex