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DCP020515D output cap to reduce output voltage ripple

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Amish Rughoonundon
Posted by Amish Rughoonundon
on Nov 01 2011 10:24 AM
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Hi,

 I am using a DCP020515D to convert 5V to 15V. I would like to minimize the output voltage ripple to under 15 mV if possible. Can TI recommend any output capacitor (possibly 10uF with low ESR from my calculations) that would do the job assuming that the input voltage is perfectly flat. Thanks

Amish

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  • Tom Guerin
    Posted by Tom Guerin
    on Nov 01 2011 11:13 AM
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    DCP022415D filter .pdf

    Amish:

     

    I attached a PI filter using ceramic capacitors and ferrite beads( 1-5uH)  for this request.The average ripple reduction is 10 -15db.

    Tom

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  • Amish Rughoonundon
    Posted by Amish Rughoonundon
    on Nov 01 2011 12:38 PM
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    3326.10411772_3.pdf7411.10411772_2.pdfHi Tom,

    Thanks for the solution.

    1) Is there a maximum ESR that the caps should have.

    2) Does the size of the decoupling caps used at the loads matter?

     

    I attached part of the design that uses the output.

     

    Thanks

    Amish3617.10411772_1.pdf

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  • Tom Guerin
    Posted by Tom Guerin
    on Nov 01 2011 14:28 PM
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    Amish:

    Thanks for the response .

    1. The ESR  on ceramic capacitors at this switching frequency is typically 3-6mΩ.

    2.The ideal decoupling capacitors are ceramic types with X5R and X7R tolerance rating  with    1.0uf to 4.7uF .Do not use Z5U or lower tolerance ceramic capacitors due their poor temperature ratings.

    Tom

     

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  • Amish Rughoonundon
    Posted by Amish Rughoonundon
    on Nov 01 2011 15:39 PM
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    Ok sounds good. I will try it out. Thanks,

    Amish

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  • Christoph Ruhland
    Posted by Christoph Ruhland
    on Mar 05 2012 06:18 AM
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    Hello together,

    the post is already some months old but I have a question concerning the DCP02 series ripple filtering, too. I already wrote Tom an Email, but maybe it's better if I post it in the forum too:

    There is one specific question which wasn't answered in different posts:
    What's about the Y-Capacitor between input GND and output GND? Other DCDC
    Manufactures propose this capacitor with high voltage durability and low
    capacity (2.2nF - 100nF).

    In our tests it was shown, that this capacitor has much more positive effects
    than all PI-filtering at the input or output side of the DC/DC-Converter.

    Does TI also recommend this GND/GND coupling? What's about the galvanic
    isolation? Are there any side effects that come with this coupling?


    Thank you very much for your help!

    Regards
    Christoph

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  • Tom Guerin
    Posted by Tom Guerin
    on Mar 05 2012 08:54 AM
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    The isolation  coupling capacitor between Vin(-) and Vout(-) can be used  for reducing  EMI and reflected ripple. However, the voltage rating should be equal or greater than the converter 1 second isolation  test or 2000V. The design of the DCx converters is fro ground fault isolation applications.

    Tom

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