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PTB78560C heat & radiated noise

PTB78560C heat & radiated noise

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Pierre Watts
Posted by Pierre Watts
on Jul 28 2011 07:27 AM
Prodigy95 points

I'm using a PTB78560C in a new design and it's causing headaches. It's a fairly simple implementation with only a single load and no tracking. Layout was done following proper procedure and with minimal trace lengths and loop sizes. The design details are:

Vin: 50VDC

Vout: 12VDC

Iout: 2A

Ci: 6000uF

Co: 2200uF

Ta: -40degrees to +70degrees Celsius

Even though the regulator produces exactly 12VDC, I have two problems:

1) At 20degrees Celsius ambient temperature, the inductor and transformer get very hot (>60degrees Celsius), even while just pushing 5W load power

2) The regulator seems to radiate noise to a profound degree, so much so that I cannot do any worthwhile measurements on the board. Just measuring ground, i.e. both the ground lead and test probe connected at the same point, I get 500mV switching noise with the same light load as before.

 

Any assistance would be appreciated.

PTB78560C
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  • Tom Guerin
    Posted by Tom Guerin
    on Jul 28 2011 10:26 AM
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    filterPTB78560xdiode fusedual input filters special.pdf

    PTB78560C absolute  maximum output  capacitance is limited to1500uF.

    1. The maximum SOA thermal limits for 2 Amp load at 48V is 70°C which under the following external pcb  conditions of 100mm x100mm copper planes and no air flow.  The 0.5 Amp load to 2 amps load transformer temperature is 60°C  or higher when operated at 50V vin.At 2 Amps, the transformer temperature is about 80-85°C.

    2. The method to measure conducted emission is with a closely coupled probe  on the vin bus± pins across  a 1-2.2uf cermaic capacitor . The scope probe must directly contact the +/- capacitors pads,. The scope ground lead must be only 0.3 to 0.5cm long. When the measurement is a long scope prbe , the E-fields , which have no power in them, are easily detected. They do not affect the emissions data.

     The best method to reduce radiated emissions is to add a series input filters to reduce EMC emission, whch ultimately reduce radiated emissions. The average radiated emissions are class A limits. A suggested conducted  filter  is attached.

    Tom

    tguerin@ti.com

     

     

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  • Pierre Watts
    Posted by Pierre Watts
    on Aug 05 2011 05:12 AM
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    Thanks for the tips. Would it be possible to reduce radiated & conducted emissions to class B with external filtering or would that require a different converter?

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  • Tom Guerin
    Posted by Tom Guerin
    on Aug 05 2011 09:25 AM
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    Pierre:

    Thanks for the response. The class B is obtainable only if the filters, all of them ,common mode and differential  mode ( separate ) components, are located in close proximity to the module.

    Tom

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