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TLV809 vs TPS3808 accuracy in monitoring a 12 volt line

TLV809 vs TPS3808 accuracy in monitoring a 12 volt line

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Marc Kellermann
Posted by Marc Kellermann
on Jul 25 2012 01:27 AM
Prodigy330 points

Hello,

I am trying to monitor a 12 volt power rail and need a reset signal to be asserted when the system loses power. I need the reset singal to be asserted at no lower than 9.7 volts in all corner cases (assuming 1% accurate exernal resistors).

What is the recommended resistor values in the voltage divider to scale down the 12 volt rail to have a balance between accuracy and low current?

What is the maxium voltage a reset signal could be asserted at, given the reistor values determined above?

Can you please help me determine the above for both a TLV809 and a TPS3808

-Marc

 

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  • Darwin Fernandez
    Posted by Darwin Fernandez
    on Jul 30 2012 13:25 PM
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    Hi Marc,

    Below is an application note that discusses the design considerations for the resistor divider. Basically, the current through the divider should be at least be 100x the leakage current into the device. This will yield the optimum accuracy for the least amount of current through the divider. This app note also discusses the accuracy of the SVS when the tolerance of the resistors is included.

    http://www.ti.com/lit/an/slva450/slva450.pdf

    For the pull-up resistor at the RESET output of the SVS, if there is no design requirements in the datasheet, the RESET voltage can be pulled up as high as the abs max rating of the RESET pin. However, it should be pulled up less than this so as to prevent damage to the device.

    Please let me know if this helps.

    Regards,

    Darwin

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  • Marc Kellermann
    Posted by Marc Kellermann
    on Aug 27 2012 17:33 PM
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    Darwin,

    Thank you for the help. I wanted to add some of the offline help you provided me to benefit others.

    Sources of inaccuracy

    The team identified three sources of inaccuracy for circuit there are as  follows:

    • Voltage ranges on which the device can be trigger, Vit in accuracy
    • External Resistor inaccuracy used to create the external voltage divider.
    • Internal Resistor Inaccuracy which can affect the leakage current and the effective R2 of the external voltage divider.

    Proposed circuit and accuracy

     Using the app note highlighted above as a guide we formulated a voltage divider that should draw 100 times the leakage current of the device to optimize the power vs. accuracy curve. Assuming a requirement to use E96 1% accurate resistors, below are the recommended resistor values to use:

     

    Device

    R1

    R3

    ADM809S

    4270

    1740

    TLV809L30

    3570

    1470

    TPS3808G33

    29100

    12900

     

    Using the above resistors the team calculated the minimum voltage a reset would happen, maximum voltage, and nominal voltage that would trigger a reset considering all three sources of inaccuracy above. These are highlighted in the table below.

     

     

    Vsense (min)

    Vsense (nom)

    Vsense (max)

    Accuracy

    ADM809s

    9.773742046

    10.19287736

    10.64698816

    8.57%

    TLV809L30

    9.769829302

    10.11711429

    10.49203562

    7.14%

    TPS3808G33

    9.802419951

    10.06518884

    10.41262094

    6.06%

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