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Wireless transmitter not starting

Wireless transmitter not starting

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Zoltan Kleinheincz
Posted by Zoltan Kleinheincz
on Jun 27 2012 09:12 AM
Prodigy35 points

Hi,

I'm building a transmitter design based on the typical application schematic of the BQ500210 but when switching the power on the unit fails to work most of the time, and I get 7 blinks on both LEDs. Strange is that rarely the unit starts and works perfectly without me doing any changes. Could you please help me what the 7 blinks mean so I could track down the problem in my design?

Thank you

BQ500210
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  • Thom Maughan
    Posted by Thom Maughan
    on Aug 16 2012 19:32 PM
    Intellectual490 points

    I may have a similar problem.

    I've implemented a design similar to that used on the BQ500210, except that I do not have the Low Power Supervisor MSP430G2001.   I've left the pins floating that would have been connected to the MSP430G2001.

    I see the BQ500210 is pinging the TX coil with every 15 seconds putting out a burst for approx. 75ms.   This is the case when the RX coil is on top of the TX coil and when the TX coil is just sitting there.

    I do not have the pad on the back of the BQ500210 grounded - this was a layout error and I'm in progress with a board spin to fix that.  I've read the recent app note with recommended design practices and for the most part I've followed the rules, except I've got a 2 layer board with reasonable ground plane.

    I do not want to spin the new board without knowing the root cause of the failure of the WP TX.    The fall back will be to replicate as exactly as possible the design and layout of the EVM.  

    Are there recommendations for

    1) not using the MSP430G2001 and what to do with the pins?

    2) debug techniques

    I'll add more details on what's been tried and circuit measurements if there is a response.

    Thanks in advance,

    Thom

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  • Bill Johns
    Posted by Bill Johns
    on Aug 19 2012 22:25 PM
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    A number of things can cause this type of problem on a new layout.  See SLUA635A for information on layout and debug.   The risk of problems with 2 layer boards are high.

    Best Regards,

    Bill Johns,  Applications Engineer

    bqTESLA Wireless Power Products

    Texas Instruments Inc

    Dallas, Texas

    bqTESLA Transmitter
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  • Thom Maughan
    Posted by Thom Maughan
    on Aug 30 2012 16:46 PM
    Intellectual490 points

    Thanks for the pointer to SLUA635A.   I had done this layout before the app note was published and had (luckily) followed good practice and for the most part obeyed the recommendations except on the 2 layer decision.

    In making the updated 4 layer PCB I've also gone thru my old layout carefully and discovered the following problems:

    1) I did not ground on the other side of the 10 ohm resistor the COMM- signal

    2) I had the foot print wrong on the BAT54SW so it was killing the COMM signal

    3) I had the input polarity reversed on the INA214

    4) I do not have the power pad grounded on the back side of the BQ50210 due to hand assembly (have not corrected this one yet).

    I have been able to verify the power train on my 2 layer board by hacking in the PWM signal from the BQ50210 EVM and have been able to transfer power.

    So in short, I had errors in my layout and schematic affecting the communication path and current sensing which explains why the BQ50210 is pinging but not starting up.

    With care and attention to details in checkplot, following the guidelines in the layout, and having a small run machine assembled I'm hoping my power transmit startup problems will be gone.

    Thom

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  • Thom Maughan
    Posted by Thom Maughan
    on Aug 30 2012 16:50 PM
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    One more question - Do I need to connect PMB_CLK and PMB_DATA thru a 10K resistor to 3.3v as shown on the EVM or can I leave them floating (un-connected).

    Thanks,

    Thom

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  • Zoltan Kleinheincz
    Posted by Zoltan Kleinheincz
    on Sep 13 2012 05:09 AM
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    Prodigy35 points

    After tweaking the design a little bit futher based on the SLUA635A application note, I could finally start the transmitter and it seems to work every time I switch it on. The LEDs are on if a 100k resistor is connected and PWM is running fine. The issue I am having right now is that the transmitter won't start the communication with the receiver EVM. My problem is similar to this one: http://e2e.ti.com/support/power_management/wireless_power/f/693/t/186796.aspx found on the forum, as every signal seems to be the same compared to the BQ500210-EVM in standby mode, but the communication still fails, so power does not start.

    My unit is based on the typical diagram found in the datasheet but without the MSP430 and I'm using a TPS54140 as a buck regulator for the 3.3V.

    Any thoughts on what might be wrong?

    Thank you

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