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TMP100 max operating temp vs max measured temp?

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Hi all,

Table 5 of the data sheet seems to indicate that the TMP100 can measure temperatures over 125 deg C (up to 128 deg C) or at least display that value in the temperature value register.

The first page of the data sheet states operation is specified only up to 125 deg C.

Will any temperature over 125 deg C be displayed as something greater than x7F8? Will the device saturate at x7FF when temperatures exceed 128 deg C?

  • Hi Tim,

    I am currently of of the office so I can not verify if the device will saturate at x7FF when temperature exceed the 128 deg C. But we do NOT guarantee this device outside 125 deg C. You are correct about 128 deg C value in the Temperature Data Format table, this table is a reference table we use for all our TMP parts. Thanks for pointing this out, I am currently updating TMP100 datasheet and will eliminate the 128 value from there to avoid future confusions.

    Can you share more about customer application? They need a temperature sensor with an operating temperature greater than 125C? Please share what are your must have feature in the temperature sensor they are looking for and I or the SVA team will be able to recommend another part for you.

    Have a great weekend!

    Best Regards,
    Mayrim

  • Hi Mayrim,

    Thanks for the reply. The application has a temperature range of -55 to 125 C. Mainly, we want to report any temperature outside of that as being invalid or out of range so any amount (even 1 bit of resolution) above that would allow us to report an invalid temperature. So the TMP100 works, we just want it to be able to report if it crosses that upper threshold before it (possibly) stops functioning due to the exceeded operating temperature.

    Would it be possible to test this, or do we have a drop-in (or very similar) replacement that is able to withstand just a little higher temperature?
  • Hi Tim,

    I am looking into this.

    Mayrim
  • Hi Tim,

    I believe we closed on this topic telephonically today...can you please confirm for Mayrim?

  • Hi all,

    Yes, this has been addressed offline so Mayrim, no further action is needed. Thanks everyone for the help, it is much appreciated!

    For the sake of reference, the answer was:
    There is room outside the -55 to 125C range in which the device will still function. The output register value can continue to rise past 125C or decrease past -55C, and it will saturate at the x7FF when temperatures exceed 128 deg C. So you could trigger an out of range error when any value not between -55 and 125C is read from the temperature register. Additionally, since the device essentially monotonically converts an analog temperature signal into a digital value, we would expect the output to stay ‘pegged’ to x7FF as the temperature increases past 128C. It should not give ‘garbage’ outputs (such as values that appear to be valid) until silicon breakdown occurs, which is at much, much, higher temperatures, and by then, the device will have already outputted x7FF so that an error can be triggered. Also note that as the device nears or exceeds the listed operating thresholds, the device accuracy will decrease (from +/-2C from -25 to 85 to +/-3C from -55 to 125).

    That being said, the functional operation of the device at conditions beyond those specified in the datasheet is not supported and we don’t warrant or guarantee the device under those circumstances. The device does meet the requirement of measuring temperatures from -55 to 125C as listed in the datasheet and the nature of the device is that it will function outside that range, but we have not qualified the device outside that range and are not liable for that.