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OPA548: Oscillation waveform: 230mV at 1.6MHz, Current range from -5 mA to -16mA

Part Number: OPA548
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: OPA547
  • Problem Description:

Our product oscillates when the output current is -10mA. Step by step positioning shows that it is the OPA548 device that oscillates

  • Application circuit:

e.g. (Figure 1), G=1, external pure resistance load,DC output

  • Oscillation waveform:

230mV at 1.6MHz, as shown in Figure 2. Figure 3 shows another OPA548 with the same test condition and amplitude of 30mV

  • Production conditions:

Current range from -5 mA to -16mA. Current outside this range will not oscillate, independent of the output voltage

Current measures:

1. We change R633 from 100R to 0R, and the amplitude and frequency of oscillation remain unchanged.

2. We replaced the OPA548, and the amplitude was reduced to 100mV, but the oscillation was not completely eliminated

3. The waveform of the negative power supply was measured without 1.6MHz ripple

4. This phenomenon exists for different batches of OPA548

Please help to analyze the reasons and improvement measures. Thank you very much!

Figure 1: OPA548 application circuit: Power supply ±23V, NC indicates the device is not welded.

Figure 1: OPA548 application circuit: Power supply ±23V, NC indicates the device is not welded.

Figure 2: CH1 (yellow) indicates the OPA548 pin 6-out output waveform, and CH2 (purple) indicates the pin 1-input waveform

Figure 3: Another OPA548 on the same board with the same test conditions as in Figure 2

  • Hi Wu,

    very important question: What is your load? Is any cabling involved at the output?

    And I don't see in your schematic how the other pins are wired. Please explain.

    Do you have supply voltage decoupling caps mounted?

    What is your input signal? Where does it come from? Is any cabling involved?

    Why is your gain so unusual?

    Please tell more about your application. More details -> more help Relaxed

    Kai

  • Hi Duanli, 

    Please help to analyze the reasons and improvement measures

    I can see that you do not have the adequate phase margin for this setup. There isn't adequate phase margin to begin with as shown in the figure 1. 

    Can you tell me about the application, as Kai implied as well? I need to know the following:

    1. Do you configure the schematic as buffer or difference amplifier?

    2. What is required BW for the application?

    3. What is driving load? What is your input amplitude and frequency?

    The issues are that there is a second pole near the unity gain BW of the op amp (~1MHz), and it will be tough to get rid of it. If the application BW is low, maybe we can find a way to compensate it. Otherwise, you may have to pick a different part for the application.

    Please let us know about the application. 

    Best,

    Raymond 

  • Hi Duanli, 

    I hope that your issues are resolved. If you need further assistant, please let us know. 

    I am going to close this inquiry for now. 

    Wenhou HZ, 

    Raymond

  • Thank you for your reply

    “What is your load? Is any cabling involved at the output?”

    reply:

    external pure resistance load,DC output.Connect cables with 10R resistors in series

    “And I don't see in your schematic how the other pins are wired. Please explain.

    Do you have supply voltage decoupling caps mounted?”

    reply:

    “What is your input signal? Where does it come from? Is any cabling involved?”

    reply:Please see the Figure 2 and Figure 3. It come from operational amplifier.

    "Why is your gain so unusual?"

    reply:

    I don't understand what your mean.

  • Thank you for your reply

    "1. Do you configure the schematic as buffer or difference amplifier?"

     reply:

    buffer.

    "2. What is required BW for the application?"

     reply:

    100KHz

    "3. What is driving load? What is your input amplitude and frequency?"

     reply:

    please see reply for kai

    "I can see that you do not have the adequate phase margin for this setup. There isn't adequate phase margin to begin with as shown in the figure 1."

    reply:

    I think that's the crux of the matter.I'll adjust the gain and phase margin

    And maybe there may be other, more basic reasons.You can set up an environment to replicate that.It has to do with the load current.

    Thank you very much.

  • Hi Duanli, 

    OPA548 is compatible with OPA547. If you try OPA547 op amp, I think that the oscillation will likely go away.  

    Since these PSpice model is earlier ones, I will not be 100% sure, but OPA547 looks a lot better than OPA548 in the similar plot in the datasheet, which I believe that it should resolve your issues. 

    Please let me know if you need further assistant. 

    来自故乡的工程师,

    Raymond 

  • Hi Duanli, 

    Please let us know if you have additional questions. I am going to close this inquiry for now. 

    Best,

    Raymond