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OPAMP recommendation

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TLV9001, TLV9041, TLV8541, ADS1114, TLV9001-Q1, ADS1113

Hello,

My customer is looking for an OPAMP that can apply non-inverting design under the following conditions.

  - Input : Vi = 0V to 100V / 200Hz Sinwave

  - Output: Vo = 0V to 2V

  - BW: f_p = 1KHz

  - Supply: VCC = 2.5V

Could you please recommend the most suitable OPAMP among TI products?

if you have a reference design, please provide it as well.

Thank you.

JH

  • Hi JH,

    Does the customer have any other requirements?

    • Noise requirements? 
    • Quiescent current/power consumption? 
    • What kind of load is it driving (capacitance and/or resistance)?
      • And what is the load's value?
    • Does the part need to be automotive qualified? 
    • Is there a specific package they want the part to be in? 
    • Do they want to have a shutdown pin?  
    • How many channels? (1, 2, or 4)

    I ask because right now we have a lot of op amps that fit those requirements. Depending on the requirements, some top contenders are TLV9001, TLV9041, and TLV8541, though there are many more. 

    Best Regards,

    Robert Clifton 

  • Hi Robert,

    Thanks for your reply.

    Below are customer responses.

    • Noise requirements? 

    We don’t have specification for it. But voltage sensing  need to under 30mV in ADC ( = ADS1114).
    We think that Noise spec. (Vn at 1 kHz (typ) (nV√Hz) 264)  of TLV8541 is enough.

      • Quiescent current/power consumption? No matter for it.
      • What kind of load is it driving (capacitance and/or resistance)?
        • And what is the load's value?

      Load device is ADS114.

      • Does the part need to be automotive qualified? We prefer automotive  part. 
      • Is there a specific package they want the part to be in? We prefer small size package that size of TLV8541 is enough.
      • Do they want to have a shutdown pin?  No
      • How many channels? (1, 2, or 4) 1CH

      Please let us know if there is a better product to meet the customer's requirements.

      Please include a reference design for the application.

      Thank you.

      JH

    • Hi JH,

      Thank you for the information! This will help narrow down the options we have. 

      Before I go into the op amp selection I want to correct the schematic that you sent over. Using a single channel op amp means that you will have to operate the ADC in a single-ended configuration. So the circuit would look like this: 

      Also I have a few other questions: 

      • Where did they get the C_diff and C-Single values? 
        • I searched the datasheet and found only the input impedance values. 
      • They expect to have a 6Vpp output signal but for that to go into an ADC that's powered with 3.3V? That's going to cause clipping. 

      If automotive is preferred then I'd recommend the TLV9001-Q1. 

      There's two pieces of content that might help with the design. The first is a fun video found here: Engineer It - How to select an op amp to drive your SAR ADC. It's a bit cheesy but it does help with choosing the correct op amp. 

      The second piece of content is the Buffer Op Amp to ADC Circuit Collection which gives a few ideas of how to use a single-ended op amp for an ADC. 

      Best Regards, 

      Robert Clifton 

    • Hi Robert,

      Below are customer responses.

      Before I go into the op amp selection I want to correct the schematic that you sent over. Using a single channel op amp means that you will have to operate the ADC in a single-ended configuration. So the circuit would look like this: 

      The voltage given by the sensor is single. So Differential doesn't seem to make sense.

      • Where did they get the C_diff and C-Single values? 
        • I searched the datasheet and found only the input impedance values. 

      We modified it as follows. Please note. And I honestly don't know if that's right.

      Reference is ADS1113/4/5/ Data sheet.

      R1 , R2 = 100

      Fc = 2Khz (10 times applied to 200 Hz. Maybe it can be changed.(under 2Khz)

      Cdiff =  390nF

      Ccm1/ Ccm1  = 39nF

      • They expect to have a 6Vpp output signal but for that to go into an ADC that's powered with 3.3V? That's going to cause clipping. 

      6.0Vp-p is error.  We are modify to 3.0V   

      Thank you.

      JH

    • Hi JH,

      Thank you for clarifying all of these things!

      We modified it as follows. Please note. And I honestly don't know if that's right.

      I'm not an ADC expert, but we can talk to the ADC team after finishing up the op-amp circuit! 

      I still think the TLV9001-Q1 would be a good fit for this application. I went ahead and ran stability analysis over this device as shown below. Please note that I split the rails so that the common mode was ground. This makes the stability simulation easier to setup and run. 

      The results showed a great amount of stability! At 89.3kHz, the phase margin showed to be 86.96 degrees, which is much higher than the recommended 45 degree minimum. The low frequency isn't a problem since this application only needs 2kHz. 

      Let me know if the TLV9001-Q1 looks like it would be a good fit for this application! 

      Best Regards, 

      Robert Clifton

    • Hi JH,

      Also here's the TINA simulation file I used.

       E2E - TLV9001-Q1 OPAMP recommendation.TSC

      Best Regards,

      Robert Clifton