I use Tina for simulation experiment,and output is correct。
But the output in the actual circuit is wrong。Is the external resistance too high?
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I use Tina for simulation experiment,and output is correct。
But the output in the actual circuit is wrong。Is the external resistance too high?
Hi Weifeng,
well the circuit isn't wrong but it's not optimal either. It could oscillate which might exactly look like a wrong output voltage when measuring with a DC multimeter.
I guess that decreasing the resistances is no option because you want to save supply current? Then I would make the circuit more robust by filtering, shielding and adding hysteresis:
Add a cap from input "E" to ground. Add a cap from point "5" or point "8" to ground. Remove C2 and C3. Connect a very high resistor (1...10G) from point "4" to point "Out". This will add hysteresis to the comparator. If this does not help enough, try to shield the circuit by a piece of metal which you connect to signal ground. A solid ground plane in an inner layer or on the bottom side of PCB can help a lot.
By the way, what load are you connecting to the output of TLV7031?
Kai
Hi,Kai
1.I want to save supply current so choose 10M ohms.
2. The output of TLV7031 is without any load,and it connect to MCU
3.If connect a very high resistor (1...10G) from point "4" to point "Out",the Vhys will be ?mV
Thanks
Weifeng,
The current model on the web has some bugs in it, and is in the process of being republished for web use.
Please try out this model and let me know if you have any additional concerns.
Thanks,
Jonny
Hi Kai
I want to do your suggestion,but I don't have 1G resistor.so i use 20M to change 1G,but the output is still 0.8V~1V.and I use tina to simulate calculation,and tina display errors. Do you have any other suggestion?
I share you my TSC-File.
By the way,can you speak chinese?
Thanks a lot.TLV7031_0703.TSC
Hi Weifeng,
I would give this circuit a try:
The TLV7031 has a built-in hysteresis. Maybe it provides sufficient hysteresis and an external resistor can be omitted.
C2 is filtering the voltage at the -input of TLV7031. R7 limits the input current. R7 can be helpful, if you need to increase C2.
Kai
PS: Unfortunately, I cannot speak Chinese :-)
Thanks Kai for your support on this.
Kai's circuit and comments are all fair. Just be aware that at higher temperatures, the bias current can rise up to 1nA. So using larger resistors at the input can cause some input offset voltage error. It really depends if it is more important to minimize power consumption or circuit performance. If your circuit does not need to operate up to 125C, this is even less of a factor.
Chuck