TPA6211A1-Q1: TPA6211A1-Q1

Hello Talex

Welcome to E2E, thanks for your interest in our products.
1)You can refer Fully Differential Amplifier Efficiency and Thermal Information section of the amplifier's datasheet where you can find all this information.
2)Yes, it is. The power dissipation depends on ambient temperature and the heat sinking ability of the PCB system.

Best Regards
José Luis Figueroa
Audio Applications Engineer

Dear sir:

thanks for your reply.

But ,Sorry,May I double confirming that :

(2) Is that your meaning which one ?

(A)refer the document PAGE 6 7.7 Dissipation Ratings
or
(B)refer the document PAGE6 and PAGE 11
7.8 Typical Characteristics ==>Table 1. Table of Graphs==>IDD Supply current==>vs Supply voltage
==>Figure 25. Supply Current vs Supply Voltage
==>Base on the curve VDD=5V ,IDD seesm only under Max 4.3mA~4.4mA(TA=125) ,Max 3.3mA~3.4mA(TA=25)

       Max Power consumption is 5Vx 4.4mA =22 mW for 4.3mA~4.4mA(TA=125) ,Max Power consumption is 5Vx 3.4mA =17 mW for Max 3.3mA~3.4mA(TA=25)
or
(C)refer the document PAGE14
==>Table 2. Efficiency and Maximum Ambient Temperature vs Output Power
==>Under 85 degree ,VDD=5V,When use Speaker 8 ohm
Max power consumption from VDD pin is 2.08W and Max current consuption is 2.08W/5V=0.754A
       Under 85 degree ,VDD=5V,When use Speaker 4 ohm
Max power consumption from VDD pin is 3.77W and Max current consuption is 3.77W/5V=0.416A

(3)Is that Max. power consumption&current power consumption related except ambiance temperature have any other condition

     (ex: Application for single End mode,differential mode.)?

     Would you help provide detail calculator for example for us reference ?

     (Base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,TPA6211A1-Q1 application for single End mode ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature) 

(4)Is maximum power consumption according above calculation result ? (RMS value or Peak value or Avg value?) 

(5)Is maximum current consumption according above calculation result ? (RMS value or Peak valueor Avg value?) 

     (Change another word: Is that your meaning according to the document page 13 mention that "IDDavg = Average current drawn from the power supply"

        therefore, that calculation  maximum current consumption result is Avg value not Peak value ,Right? )

Thanks

Dear SIR:

thanks for your reply.

But ,Sorry,May I double confirming that :

(Q3)Is that Max. Input power consumption & Input current power consumption related Application for single End mode,differential mode.?

Would you help provide detail calculator for example for us reference

(Change another word: Would you calculate It to show me for reference base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,TPA6211A1-Q1 application for single End mode ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB  PACKAGE)?

(Q6) Did  TPA6211A1-Q1 have  information as below(for example) for VDD pin?

Thanks

Did not resolved my issue According to the reply that mention "the amplifier's datasheet doesn't have this information" and can't provide the detail example and information.

If that reply  "the amplifier's datasheet doesn't have this information" and can't provide the detail example and information.

I have no idea and understanding that reply "How to solved my issue and question ".

TAlex Wu,

You can refer the Electrical Characteristics section of the amplifier's datasheet to find the Quiescent current that is the Vdd pin current.

Best Regards
José Luis Figueroa
Audio Applications Engineer

Did not resolved my issue According to the reply that mention "the amplifier's datasheet doesn't have this information" and can't provide the detail example and information.

If that reply  "the amplifier's datasheet doesn't have this information" and can't provide the detail example and information.

I have no idea and understanding that reply "How to solved my issue and question ".

And your reply did not match us question ,always. (I never question regarding "Quiescent current that is the Vdd pin current")

Reiterated our question as below,again:

May I have another question that "When could you reply  & match & make sure solved my question ? " before "TI Thinks Resolved".

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(Q3)Is that Max. Input power consumption & Input current power consumption related Application for single End mode,differential mode.?

Would you help provide detail calculator for example for us reference

(Change another word: Would you calculate It to show me for reference base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,TPA6211A1-Q1 application for single End mode ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB  PACKAGE)?

(Q6) Did  TPA6211A1-Q1 have  information as below(for example) for VDD pin?

Did not resolved my issue According to the reply that mention "the amplifier's datasheet doesn't have this information" and can't provide the detail example and information.

If that reply "the amplifier's datasheet doesn't have this information" and can't provide the detail example and information.

I have no idea and understanding that reply "How to solved my issue and question ".

And your reply did not match us question ,always. (I never question regarding "Pdmax for a differential output application.")

Reiterated our question as below,again:

May I have another question that "When could you reply & match & make sure solved my question ? " before "TI Thinks Resolved".

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(Q3)Is that Max. Input power consumption & Input current power consumption related Application for single End mode,differential mode.?

Would you help provide detail calculator for example for us reference

(Change another word: Would you calculate It to show me for reference base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,TPA6211A1-Q1application for single End mode ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE)?

(Q6) Did TPA6211A1-Q1 have information as below(for example) for VDD pin?

        ==>Thank for your reply that "The Vdd pin can be supplied from 2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A."

               Would  you provide the document  for mention "2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A."?

               Change another word : Where can got the spec. "2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A. " and 

               Base on "What's condition for 2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A. ? " 

Did not resolved my issue According to the reply that mention "the amplifier's datasheet doesn't have this information" and can't provide the detail example and information.

If that reply "the amplifier's datasheet doesn't have this information" and can't provide the detail example and information.

I have no idea and understanding that reply "How to solved my issue and question ".

And your reply did not match us question ,always. (I never question regarding "Pdmax for a differential output application.")

Reiterated our question as below,again:(Base on your question modify  the key word)

May I have another question that "When could you reply & match & make sure solved my question ? " before "TI Thinks Resolved".

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(Q3-1)Is that Max. Input power consumption & Input current power consumption related Application for "Single-Ended Input Application","Differential Input Application".?

Would you help provide detail calculator VDD pin Max. power consumption  for example for us reference
(base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,TPA6211A1-Q1application for  Single-Ended Input Application  ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE,VDD=5V)

(Change another word: Would you calculate It(VDD pin Max. Power consumption) to show me for reference base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,TPA6211A1-Q1application for  Single-Ended Input Application  ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE,VDD=5V )?

(Q3-2) More question " How could you don't understand  very well" then reply "TI Thinks Resolved"?"

(Q6-1) Did TPA6211A1-Q1 have information as below(for example) for VDD pin?

        ==>Thank for your reply that "The Vdd pin can be supplied from 2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A."

               Would  you provide the document  for mention "2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A."?

               Change another word : Where can got the spec. "2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A. " and 

               Base on "What's condition for 2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A. ? " 

      ===>

(Thank for your reply that  and your reply did not match us question ,always. (I never question regarding "short-circuit protection"))

             Reiterated our question as below,again:

             Did TPA6211A1-Q1 have information as below(for example) for VDD pin?

(Q6-2) More question " Why your reply sometime mention "1A" and sometime mention "1.2A" ?"

Dear SIR:

Thank for you reply.

(Q3-1)Is that match "Would you help provide detail calculator for example for us reference

(Change another word: Would you calculate It to show me for reference base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,TPA6211A1-Q1application for single End mode ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE)? "

If not ,Why your reply did not match us question ,always ? ( You don't understand  very well ,always.)

(Q3-2) I think my question is"Would you help provide detail calculator VDD pin Max. power consumption  for

          example for us reference (base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,TPA6211A1-Q1application for  Single-Ended Input Application  ,ambiance temperature 25 room

          temperature ,DRB PACKAGE,VDD=5V)"

(Q3-3)How to calculate for got as your reply that "Ps=2W" (or What's document  can got the  "Ps=2W" ?)

           (If base on your reply "normal condition the maximum current would be around 440mA.and power supply to 5.5V"

          440mA*5.5V=2420mW=2.42W > "Ps=2W" ,2W/5.5V=363.6mA~364mA , didn't match ???)

(Q3-4) Is "Ps=2W" base on condtion "Speaker 8ohm ,Single-Ended Input Application  ,ambiance temperature 25 room  temperature ,DRB PACKAGE " with THD+N=10% ? 

            Is "Ps=2W " meaning Psupply.Max.=2W with condtion "Speaker 8ohm ,Single-Ended Input Application  ,ambiance temperature 25 room  temperature ,DRB PACKAGE "

            with THD+N=10%?

(Q6-1) Would  you provide the document  for mention "2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A."?

               Change another word : Where can got the spec. "2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A. " and 

               Base on "What's condition for 2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A. ? " 

(Q6-2) More question " Why your reply sometime mention "1A" and sometime mention "1.2A" ?" (If  short-circuit protection (1.2A) ,What is "1A" ?)

(Q7) Would  you provide the document  for mention the spec."short-circuit protection (1.2A)"?

TAlex,

Q3) The first value of Ps=2w was obtained with the provided conditions: Speaker 8ohm, TPA6211A1-Q1 application for Single-Ended Input Application, ambiance temperature 25 room temperature, DRB PACKAGE, VDD=5V. You take into account that power supply is 5V in this case.
Q3-Q6) The second value of Ps=2.42W is obtained with Vdd=5.5V. It is necessary to set the maximum power supply that it is recommended for this device in order to get the maximum power consumption.
Q6) These kinds of devices have the current threshold of the short-circuit protection between 1A to 1.2A.

Best Regards
José Luis Figueroa
Audio Applications Engineer

Dear SIR:

Thank for you reply

(Q3-0)double confirming :

Is that your meaning as below ? (replay below confirming item directly ,please.)

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Ps=2.42W is obtained with Vdd=5.5V maximum power supply(Base on what's condition ? Speaker ?ohm ,Single-Ended or differential Input Application ,ambiance temperature ? ,  What's PACKAGE ,THD+N=?%)  

Ps=2      W is obtained with Vdd=5   V maximum power supply(base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,Single-Ended Input Application ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE ,THD+N=10% ,Right?)

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(Q3-1)Is that match "Would you help provide detail calculator for example for us reference

(Change another word: Would you calculate It to show me for reference base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,TPA6211A1-Q1application for single End mode ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE,VDD=5V)? "

If not ,Why your reply did not match us question ,always ? ( You don't understand  very well ,always.)

(Q3-2) I think my question is"Would you help provide detail calculator VDD pin Max. power consumption  for

         example for us reference (base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,TPA6211A1-Q1application for  Single-Ended Input Application  ,ambiance temperature 25 room

         temperature ,DRB PACKAGE,VDD=5V)"

(Q3-3)How to calculate for got as your reply that "Ps=2W" (or What's document  can got the  "Ps=2W" ?)

          (If base on your reply "normal condition the maximum current would be around 440mA.and power supply to 5.5V"

         440mA*5.5V=2420mW=2.42W > "Ps=2W" ,2W/5.5V=363.6mA~364mA , didn't match ???)(Base on (Q3-0 confirming the meaning))

(Q3-4) Is "Ps=2W" base on condtion "Speaker 8ohm ,Single-Ended Input Application  ,ambiance temperature 25 room  temperature ,DRB PACKAGE " with THD+N=10% ?

           Is "Ps=2W " meaning Psupply.Max.=2W with condtion "Speaker 8ohm ,Single-Ended Input Application  ,ambiance temperature 25 room  temperature ,DRB PACKAGE "

           with THD+N=10%? (Base on (Q3-0 confirming the meaning))

(Q3-5) How to calculate for got  or What's spec. document  can got the  "VDD pin " Max. current  (IDD Max.) is 400mA(VDD=5V)~ 440mA (VDD=5.5V) ,

            base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,TPA6211A1-Q1application for  Single-Ended Input Application  ,ambiance temperature 25 room

            temperature ,DRB PACKAGE,VDD=5V) ?

(Q6-1) Would  you provide the document  for mention "2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A."?

              Change another word : Where can got the spec. "2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A. " and

              Base on "What's condition for 2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A. ? "

(Q6-2) More question " Why your reply sometime mention "1A" and sometime mention "1.2A" ?" (If  short-circuit protection (1.2A) ,What is "1A" ?)(Base on (Q3-0 confirming the meaning))

(Q8) Would  you provide the document  for mention the spec."short-circuit protection (1A~1.2A)"?

Dear SIR:

Thank for you reply

(Q3-0)double confirming :

Is that your meaning as below ? (replay below confirming item directly ,please.)

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Ps=2.42W is obtained with Vdd=5.5V maximum power supply(Base on what's condition ? Speaker ?ohm ,Single-Ended or differential Input Application ,ambiance temperature ? ,  What's PACKAGE ,THD+N=?%)  

Ps=2      W is obtained with Vdd=5   V maximum power supply(base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,Single-Ended Input Application ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE ,THD+N=10% ,Right?)

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==>Thank for your double confirming your reply meaning as below:

The values Psupply(VDD pin) Max= 2.42w was obtained with Vdd=5.5V with the same conditions that Ps=2W (Based on Conditions: Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10%)

 Psupply (VDD pin) Max=2W was obtained with the conditions:(base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,Single-Ended Input Application ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE ,THD+N=10%

(Q3-1)Is that match "Would you help provide detail calculator for example for us reference

(Change another word: Would you calculate It to show me for reference base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,TPA6211A1-Q1application for single End mode ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE,VDD=5V)? "

If not ,Why your reply did not match us question ,always ? ( You don't understand  very well ,always.)

==>Thank your reply and measured,but It is still not match our question.Therefore still waiting your reply for match our question. 

       Because you reply  that "did a test to get power supply current" ,not base on spec. or any document.

(Q3-2) I think my question is"Would you help provide detail calculator VDD pin Max. power consumption  for example 

        for us reference (base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,TPA6211A1-Q1application for  Single-Ended Input Application  ,ambiance temperature 25 room

         temperature ,DRB PACKAGE,VDD=5V)"

==>Thank your reply and measured,but It is still not match our question.Therefore still waiting your reply for match our question. 

       Because you reply  that "did a test to get power supply current" ,not base on spec. or any document.

       Change another word,It is inverse deduction. Not detail calculator VDD pin Max. power consumption  example.

(Q3-3)How to calculate for got as your reply that "Ps=2W" (or What's document  can got the  "Ps=2W" ?)

          (If base on your reply "normal condition the maximum current would be around 440mA.and power supply to 5.5V"

==>Thank your reply and I measured,but It is still not match our question.Therefore still waiting your reply for match our question. 

==>Thank your reply and I measured,but It is still not match our question.Therefore still waiting your reply for match our question. 

       440mA*5.5V=2420mW=2.42W > "Ps=2W" ,2W/5.5V=363.6mA~364mA , didn't match ???)(Base on (Q3-0 confirming the meaning))

(Q3-4) Is "Ps=2W" base on condtion "Speaker 8ohm ,Single-Ended Input Application  ,ambiance temperature 25 room  temperature ,DRB PACKAGE " with THD+N=10% ?

           Is "Ps=2W " meaning Psupply.Max.=2W with condtion "Speaker 8ohm ,Single-Ended Input Application  ,ambiance temperature 25 room  temperature ,DRB PACKAGE "

           with THD+N=10%? (Base on (Q3-0 confirming the meaning))

(Q3-5) How to calculate for got  or What's spec. document  can got the  "VDD pin " Max. current  (IDD Max.) is 400mA(VDD=5V)~ 440mA (VDD=5.5V) ,

            base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,TPA6211A1-Q1application for  Single-Ended Input Application  ,ambiance temperature 25 room

            temperature ,DRB PACKAGE,VDD=5V) ?

==>Thank your reply and measured,but It is still not match our question.Therefore still waiting your reply for match our question. 

       Because you reply  that "did a test to get power supply current" ,not base on spec. or any document.

       Change another word,It is inverse deduction. Not detail calculator VDD pin Max. power consumption  example.

(Q6-1) Would  you provide the document  for mention "2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A."?

              Change another word : Where can got the spec. "2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A. " and

              Base on "What's condition for 2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A. ? "

(Q6-2) More question " Why your reply sometime mention "1A" and sometime mention "1.2A" ?" (If  short-circuit protection (1.2A) ,What is "1A" ?)(Base on (Q3-0 confirming the meaning))

(Q8) Would  you provide the document  for mention the spec."short-circuit protection (1A~1.2A)"?

==>Thank for your reply and did some tests.

        But as your reply that "no document that mentions the short-circuit protection",It is still not match our question.Therefore still waiting your reply for match our question. 

(Q9)According (Q3-0) confirming result and (Q8)'s reply and test result seems didn't match spec.(datasheet),Why?

(Q9-1) (Q3-0)  Psupply (VDD pin ) Max=2W was obtained with the conditions:(base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,Single-Ended Input Application ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE ,THD+N=10%

        According to TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet) mention that Ps(diff) MAX. is 2.08W  

        Base on your reply that Ps(S-E)supply Max(VDD pin) is 2W  (base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,Single-Ended Input Application ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE ,THD+N=10%)

        According  formula P(diff) =4xP(S-E) ,Therefore P(diff)supply(VDD pin) Max =8W  (base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,Differential Input Application ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE ,THD+N=10%)  

(Q9-2)as (Q9-1), P(diff)supply(VDD pin) Max =8W ,IDD Max is 8W/5V=1.6 A(base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,Differential Input Application ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE ,THD+N=10%) ,Over "short-circuit protection (1A~1.2A)"? Is that your meaning TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet) Incorrect ?Would  you help to provide correct TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet) ? 

Dear SIR:

Would you have any update as below question and when can help resolved?

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Dear SIR:

Thank for you reply

(Q3-0)double confirming :

Is that your meaning as below ? (replay below confirming item directly ,please.)

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Ps=2.42W is obtained with Vdd=5.5V maximum power supply(Base on what's condition ? Speaker ?ohm ,Single-Ended or differential Input Application ,ambiance temperature ? ,  What's PACKAGE ,THD+N=?%)  

Ps=2      W is obtained with Vdd=5   V maximum power supply(base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,Single-Ended Input Application ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE ,THD+N=10% ,Right?)

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==>Thank for your double confirming your reply meaning as below:

The values Psupply(VDD pin) Max= 2.42w was obtained with Vdd=5.5V with the same conditions that Ps=2W (Based on Conditions: Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10%)

 Psupply (VDD pin) Max=2W was obtained with the conditions:(base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,Single-Ended Input Application ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE ,THD+N=10%

(Q3-1)Is that match "Would you help provide detail calculator for example for us reference

(Change another word: Would you calculate It to show me for reference base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,TPA6211A1-Q1application for single End mode ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE,VDD=5V)? "

If not ,Why your reply did not match us question ,always ? ( You don't understand  very well ,always.)

==>Thank your reply and measured,but It is still not match our question.Therefore still waiting your reply for match our question. 

       Because you reply  that "did a test to get power supply current" ,not base on spec. or any document.

(Q3-2) I think my question is"Would you help provide detail calculator VDD pin Max. power consumption  for example 

        for us reference (base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,TPA6211A1-Q1application for  Single-Ended Input Application  ,ambiance temperature 25 room

         temperature ,DRB PACKAGE,VDD=5V)"

==>Thank your reply and measured,but It is still not match our question.Therefore still waiting your reply for match our question. 

       Because you reply  that "did a test to get power supply current" ,not base on spec. or any document.

       Change another word,It is inverse deduction. Not detail calculator VDD pin Max. power consumption  example.

(Q3-3)How to calculate for got as your reply that "Ps=2W" (or What's document  can got the  "Ps=2W" ?)

          (If base on your reply "normal condition the maximum current would be around 440mA.and power supply to 5.5V"

==>Thank your reply and I measured,but It is still not match our question.Therefore still waiting your reply for match our question. 

==>Thank your reply and I measured,but It is still not match our question.Therefore still waiting your reply for match our question. 

       440mA*5.5V=2420mW=2.42W > "Ps=2W" ,2W/5.5V=363.6mA~364mA , didn't match ???)(Base on (Q3-0 confirming the meaning))

(Q3-4) Is "Ps=2W" base on condtion "Speaker 8ohm ,Single-Ended Input Application  ,ambiance temperature 25 room  temperature ,DRB PACKAGE " with THD+N=10% ?

           Is "Ps=2W " meaning Psupply.Max.=2W with condtion "Speaker 8ohm ,Single-Ended Input Application  ,ambiance temperature 25 room  temperature ,DRB PACKAGE "

           with THD+N=10%? (Base on (Q3-0 confirming the meaning))

(Q3-5) How to calculate for got  or What's spec. document  can got the  "VDD pin " Max. current  (IDD Max.) is 400mA(VDD=5V)~ 440mA (VDD=5.5V) ,

            base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,TPA6211A1-Q1application for  Single-Ended Input Application  ,ambiance temperature 25 room

            temperature ,DRB PACKAGE,VDD=5V) ?

==>Thank your reply and measured,but It is still not match our question.Therefore still waiting your reply for match our question. 

       Because you reply  that "did a test to get power supply current" ,not base on spec. or any document.

       Change another word,It is inverse deduction. Not detail calculator VDD pin Max. power consumption  example.

(Q6-1) Would  you provide the document  for mention "2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A."?

              Change another word : Where can got the spec. "2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A. " and

              Base on "What's condition for 2.5V to 5.5V and the maximum current is about 1A. ? "

(Q6-2) More question " Why your reply sometime mention "1A" and sometime mention "1.2A" ?" (If  short-circuit protection (1.2A) ,What is "1A" ?)(Base on (Q3-0 confirming the meaning))

(Q8) Would  you provide the document  for mention the spec."short-circuit protection (1A~1.2A)"?

==>Thank for your reply and did some tests.

        But as your reply that "no document that mentions the short-circuit protection",It is still not match our question.Therefore still waiting your reply for match our question. 

(Q9)According (Q3-0) confirming result and (Q8)'s reply and test result seems didn't match spec.(datasheet),Why?

(Q9-1) (Q3-0)  Psupply (VDD pin ) Max=2W was obtained with the conditions:(base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,Single-Ended Input Application ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE ,THD+N=10%

        According to TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet) mention that Ps(diff) MAX. is 2.08W  

        Base on your reply that Ps(S-E)supply Max(VDD pin) is 2W  (base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,Single-Ended Input Application ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE ,THD+N=10%)

        According  formula P(diff) =4xP(S-E) ,Therefore P(diff)supply(VDD pin) Max =8W  (base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,Differential Input Application ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE ,THD+N=10%)  

(Q9-2)as (Q9-1), P(diff)supply(VDD pin) Max =8W ,IDD Max is 8W/5V=1.6 A(base on condition: Speaker 8ohm ,Differential Input Application ,ambiance temperature 25 room temperature ,DRB PACKAGE ,THD+N=10%) ,Over "short-circuit protection (1A~1.2A)"? Is that your meaning TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet) Incorrect ?Would  you help to provide correct TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet) ? 

TAlex,

Q3-1,2,3,5) I think that I explained to you how to do calculations. Here It is:
"Q3-3,5)For instance, I did a test to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5V)*(400mA)= 2W.
I did another measurement to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5.5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the maximum power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5.5V)*(484mA)=2.42W."
Vdd is the power supply and Is is the current supply. Is could be measured with a multimeter.
"You can refer an application report called "Guidelines for Measuring Audio Power Amplifiers Performance" to find how to do measurements to audio power amplifiers."
I am going to attach the application report before mentioning where you can find how to measure audio power amplifiers performance. Here you can find how to measure and calculate a lot of parameters at audio amplifiers like the power consumption, output power, etc.
Q8) This device is old and you should take into account that the information is limited.
Q9-1,2) First of all, the gotten value is power consumption (2W) and you are confusing it with output power. You asked for the power consumption.
Second of all, This power consumption (2W) is gotten with single-ended or differential input, the difference is that the device needs lower input signal level with differential input than a single-ended input to achieve the same output power. But I think that you are confusing single-ended input with single-ended output.
Finally, you mentioned that is finding power consumption with single-ended input, so what are you looking for?

Best Regards
José Luis Figueroa
Audio Applications Engineer

sloa068.pdf

Dear SIR:

Thank for your reply&provide the document and It still can't match our question.

But ,Base on your reply example,Double confirming as below:

Q3-1,2,3,5) I think that I explained to you how to do calculations. Here It is:
"Q3-3,5)For instance, I did a test to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5V)*(400mA)= 2W. 
I did another measurement to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5.5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the maximum power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5.5V)*(484mA)=2.42W."
==>your reply always reply "test result" ,but our question is "how to do calculations....".

        Therefore,Double confirming regarding you provide the example ,That 400mA and 484mA ,Is that can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6 ?

         And base on your reply mention that "This power consumption (2W) is gotten with single-ended or differential input",Is that your meaning the 400mA and 484mA

        no related Single-Ended Input Application and differential Input Application ?

Q8) This device is old and you should take into account that the information is limited.

==>Would you have any new device advice for replace this old device ? If  the information is limited by device is old.
Q9-1,2) First of all, the gotten value is power consumption (2W) and you are confusing it with output power. You asked for the power consumption. 
Second of all, This power consumption (2W) is gotten with single-ended or differential input, the difference is that the device needs lower input signal level with differential input than a single-ended input to achieve the same output power. But I think that you are confusing single-ended input with single-ended output.
Finally, you mentioned that is finding power consumption with single-ended input, so what are you looking for?

==>Thanks your reminder,Yes.you are right. the formula P(diff) =4xP(S-E) related for output.our question is input.

Dear SIR:

Thank for your reply&provide the document and It still can't match our question.

But ,Base on your reply example,Double confirming as below and It still waiting your reply and confirming directly:

May I know "When you will reply and confirming below question directly " ?

Q3-1,2,3,5) I think that I explained to you how to do calculations. Here It is:
"Q3-3,5)For instance, I did a test to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5V)*(400mA)= 2W. 
I did another measurement to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5.5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the maximum power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5.5V)*(484mA)=2.42W."
==>your reply always reply "test result" ,but our question is "how to do calculations....".

        Therefore,Double confirming regarding you provide the example ,That 400mA and 484mA ,Is that can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6 ?

(Q3-6)If  400mA and 484mA can not calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6 ,What's different between  "TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 

            Equation 6 " and "400mA ,484mA" ? Would you explain?

         And base on your reply mention that "This power consumption (2W) is gotten with single-ended or differential input",Is that your meaning the 400mA and 484mA

        no related Single-Ended Input Application and differential Input Application ?

Q8) This device is old and you should take into account that the information is limited.

==>Would you have any new device advice for replace this old device ? If  the information is limited by device is old.

==>Waiting your advice new Class-AB amplifiers for replace this old device ,Because TPA6211A1-Q1 is Class-AB amplifiers.

Dear SIR:

Thank for your reply&provide the document and It still can't match our question.

But ,Base on your reply example,Double confirming as below and It still waiting your reply and confirming directly:

May I know "When you will reply and confirming below question directly " ?

Q3-1,2,3,5) I think that I explained to you how to do calculations. Here It is:
"Q3-3,5)For instance, I did a test to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5V)*(400mA)= 2W. 
I did another measurement to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5.5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the maximum power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5.5V)*(484mA)=2.42W."
==>your reply always reply "test result" ,but our question is "how to do calculations....".

        Therefore,Double confirming regarding you provide the example ,That 400mA and 484mA ,Is that can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6 ?

==>Thank for your confirming result that according to your reply that 400mA and 484mA  can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6.

       but our question is "detail  calculations example for got 400mA and 484mA".  Therefore,still waiting your reply directly.   

      "When will you reply the question item directly " ? 

 "Q3-3,5)For instance, I did a test to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5V)*(400mA)= 2W. 
I did another measurement to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5.5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the maximum power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5.5V)*(484mA)=2.42W."
==>your reply always reply "test result" ,but our question is "how to do calculations....".

(Q3-6)If  400mA and 484mA can not calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6 ,What's different between  "TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 

            Equation 6 " and "400mA ,484mA" ? Would you explain?

         And base on your reply mention that "This power consumption (2W) is gotten with single-ended or differential input",Is that your meaning the 400mA and 484mA

        no related Single-Ended Input Application and differential Input Application ?

==> You didn't reply and confirming directly ,Therefore still waiting your reply and confirming directly:

        May I know "When  will you reply  the question item directly " ?

     
Q8) This device is old and you should take into account that the information is limited.

==>Would you have any new device advice for replace this old device ? If  the information is limited by device is old.

==>Waiting your advice new Class-AB amplifiers for replace this old device ,Because TPA6211A1-Q1 is Class-AB amplifiers.

==>Base on your reply, We will waiting you "update the datasheet for add the TPA6211A1-Q1 missing information".

       When could you provide it ?

Dear SIR:

Thank for your reply&provide the document and It still can't match our question.

But ,Base on your reply example,Double confirming as below and It still waiting your reply and confirming directly:

May I know "When you will reply and confirming below question directly " ?

Q3-1,2,3,5) I think that I explained to you how to do calculations. Here It is:
"Q3-3,5)For instance, I did a test to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5V)*(400mA)= 2W. 
I did another measurement to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5.5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the maximum power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5.5V)*(484mA)=2.42W."
==>your reply always reply "test result" ,but our question is "how to do calculations....".

        Therefore,Double confirming regarding you provide the example ,That 400mA and 484mA ,Is that can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6 ?

==>Thank for your confirming result that according to your reply that 400mA and 484mA  can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6.

       but our question is "detail  calculations example for got 400mA and 484mA".  Therefore,still waiting your reply directly.   

      "When will you reply the question item directly " ? 

 "Q3-3,5)For instance, I did a test to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5V)*(400mA)= 2W. 
I did another measurement to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5.5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the maximum power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5.5V)*(484mA)=2.42W."
==>your reply always reply "test result" ,but our question is "how to do calculations....".

(Q3-6)If  400mA and 484mA can not calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6 ,What's different between  "TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 

            Equation 6 " and "400mA ,484mA" ? Would you explain?

         And base on your reply mention that "This power consumption (2W) is gotten with single-ended or differential input",Is that your meaning the 400mA and 484mA

        no related Single-Ended Input Application and differential Input Application ?

==> You didn't reply and confirming directly ,Therefore still waiting your reply and confirming directly:

        May I know "When  will you reply  the question item directly " ?

     
Q8) This device is old and you should take into account that the information is limited.

==>Would you have any new device advice for replace this old device ? If  the information is limited by device is old.

==>Waiting your advice new Class-AB amplifiers for replace this old device ,Because TPA6211A1-Q1 is Class-AB amplifiers.

==>Base on your reply, We will waiting you "update the datasheet for add the TPA6211A1-Q1 missing information".

       When could you provide it ?

Dear SIR:

Thank for your reply&provide the document and It still can't match our question.

But ,Base on your reply example,Double confirming and It still waiting your reply and confirming directly:

May I know "When you will reply and confirming question directly " ?

Dear SIR:

Thank for your reply&provide the document and It still can't match our question.

May I know "When  will you reply and confirming question directly " ?

Dear SIR:

Thank for your reply&provide the document and It still can't match our question.

But ,Base on your reply example,Double confirming as below and It still waiting your reply and confirming directly:

May I know "When you will reply and confirming below question directly " ?

Q3-1,2,3,5) I think that I explained to you how to do calculations. Here It is:

"Q3-3,5)For instance, I did a test to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5V)*(400mA)= 2W.

I did another measurement to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5.5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the maximum power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5.5V)*(484mA)=2.42W."

==>your reply always reply "test result" ,but our question is "how to do calculations....".

       Therefore,Double confirming regarding you provide the example ,That 400mA and 484mA ,Is that can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6 ?

==>Thank for your confirming result that according to your reply that 400mA and 484mA  can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6.

      but our question is "detail  calculations example for got 400mA and 484mA".  Therefore,still waiting your reply directly.  

     "When will you reply the question item directly " ?

"Q3-3,5)For instance, I did a test to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5V)*(400mA)= 2W.

I did another measurement to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5.5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the maximum power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5.5V)*(484mA)=2.42W."

==>your reply always reply "test result" ,but our question is "how to do calculations....".

(Q3-6)If  400mA and 484mA can not calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6 ,What's different between  "TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14

           Equation 6 " and "400mA ,484mA" ? Would you explain?

        And base on your reply mention that "This power consumption (2W) is gotten with single-ended or differential input",Is that your meaning the 400mA and 484mA

       no related Single-Ended Input Application and differential Input Application ?

==> You didn't reply and confirming directly ,Therefore still waiting your reply and confirming directly:

       May I know "When  will you reply  the question item directly " ?

Q8) This device is old and you should take into account that the information is limited.

==>Would you have any new device advice for replace this old device ? If  the information is limited by device is old.

==>Waiting your advice new Class-AB amplifiers for replace this old device ,Because TPA6211A1-Q1 is Class-AB amplifiers.

==>Base on your reply, We will waiting you "update the datasheet for add the TPA6211A1-Q1 missing information".

      When could you provide it ?

Dear SIR:

Thank for your reply&provide the document and It still can't match our question.

But ,Base on your reply example,Double confirming as below and It still waiting your reply and confirming directly:

May I know "When you will reply and confirming below question directly " ?

Q3-1,2,3,5) I think that I explained to you how to do calculations. Here It is:

"Q3-3,5)For instance, I did a test to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5V)*(400mA)= 2W.

I did another measurement to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5.5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the maximum power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5.5V)*(484mA)=2.42W."

==>your reply always reply "test result" ,but our question is "how to do calculations....".

       Therefore,Double confirming regarding you provide the example ,That 400mA and 484mA ,Is that can calculated byTPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6 ?

==>Thank for your confirming result that according to your reply that 400mA and 484mA  can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6.

      but our question is "detail  calculations example for got 400mA and 484mA".  Therefore,still waiting your reply directly.  

     "When will you reply the question item directly " ?

"Q3-3,5)For instance, I did a test to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5V)*(400mA)= 2W.

I did another measurement to get power supply current based on the following conditions Vdd=5.5V, Speaker 8Ω, single-ended input, ambiance temperature 25, DRB package and THD+N=10% and calculated the maximum power consumption Ps=VddIs=(5.5V)*(484mA)=2.42W."

==>your reply always reply "test result" ,but our question is "how to do calculations....".

(Q3-6)If  400mA and 484mA can not calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6 ,What's different between  "TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14

           Equation 6 " and "400mA ,484mA" ? Would you explain?

        And base on your reply mention that "This power consumption (2W) is gotten with single-ended or differential input",Is that your meaning the 400mA and 484mA

       no related Single-Ended Input Application and differential Input Application ?

==> You didn't reply and confirming directly ,Therefore still waiting your reply and confirming directly:

       May I know "When  will you reply  the question item directly " ?

Q8) This device is old and you should take into account that the information is limited.

==>Would you have any new device advice for replace this old device ? If  the information is limited by device is old.

==>Waiting your advice new Class-AB amplifiers for replace this old device ,Because TPA6211A1-Q1 is Class-AB amplifiers.

==>Base on your reply, We will waiting you "update the datasheet for add the TPA6211A1-Q1 missing information".

      When could you provide it ?

Dear SIR:

Q3-1,2,3,5)

     Thank for your confirming result that according to your reply that 400mA and 484mA  can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6.

      but our question is "detail  calculations example for got 400mA and 484mA".  Therefore,still waiting your reply directly.  

     "When will you reply the question item directly " ?[ I don't think  the reply "As I mentioned you a couple of posts previously, you can also get the power

      consumption with the equations 5,6 or just equation 7." met our question. ]

Q8) Base on your reply(I am going to work on this in order to update the datasheet, but I can't give you an approximate date.),

       We will waiting you "update the datasheet for add the TPA6211A1-Q1 missing information".

       When could you provide it ?[ I don't think  the reply "can't give you an approximate date" met our question. ]

Dear SIR:

Thanks for your reply,

Q3-1,2,3,5)

     Thank for your confirming result that according to your reply that 400mA and 484mA  can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6.

      but our question is "detail  calculations example for got 400mA and 484mA".  Therefore,still waiting your reply directly.  

     "When will you reply the question item directly " ?[ I don't think  the reply "As I mentioned you a couple of posts previously, you can also get the power

      consumption with the equations 5,6 or just equation 7." met our question. ]

==>Your reply still not met our question ,Change another word: our question is "detail  calculations Example for got 400mA and 484mA base on your reply mention 

"400mA and 484mA  can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6.".  "

Q8)Waiting your update.

Thanks for your reply,

Q3-1,2,3,5)

     Thank for your confirming result that according to your reply that 400mA and 484mA  can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6.

      but our question is "detail  calculations example for got 400mA and 484mA".  Therefore,still waiting your reply directly.  

     "When will you reply the question item directly " ?[ I don't think  the reply "As I mentioned you a couple of posts previously, you can also get the power

      consumption with the equations 5,6 or just equation 7." met our question. ]

==>Your reply still not met our question ,Change another word: our question is "detail  calculations Example for got 400mA and 484mA base on your reply mention 

"400mA and 484mA  can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6.".  "

Q9)According to your reply mention that "Vp=5.03V and Vp=6.08V" ,Would you explain  detail  calculations for got  "Vp=5.03V and Vp=6.08V" ?  

Q8)Waiting your update.

Thanks for your reply,But , Do you understanding "detail" meaning ?

Q3-1,2,3,5)

     Thank for your confirming result that according to your reply that 400mA and 484mA  can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6.

      but our question is "detail  calculations example for got 400mA and 484mA".  Therefore,still waiting your reply directly.  

     "When will you reply the question item directly " ?[ I don't think  the reply "As I mentioned you a couple of posts previously, you can also get the power

      consumption with the equations 5,6 or just equation 7." met our question. ]

==>Your reply still not met our question ,Change another word: our question is "detail  calculations Example for got 400mA and 484mA base on your reply mention 

"400mA and 484mA  can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6.".  

(Still waiting your detail  calculations Example for got 400mA and 484mA base on your reply mention "400mA and 484mA  can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet )

page 14 Equation 6.)

Q9)According to your reply mention that "Vp=5.03V and Vp=6.08V" ,Would you explain  detail  calculations for got  "Vp=5.03V and Vp=6.08V" ?  

      ==>According to your reply that "Vp is selected according to the output voltage level that you are looking for your application."

             Would you explain detail   regarding "Vp=5.03V and Vp=6.08V"  base what's  application selected?

Q8)Waiting your update.

Dear SIR:

Thanks for your reply,But , Do you understanding "detail" meaning ?

Q3-1,2,3,5)

     Thank for your confirming result that according to your reply that 400mA and 484mA  can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6.

      but our question is "detail  calculations example for got 400mA and 484mA".  Therefore,still waiting your reply directly.  

     "When will you reply the question item directly " ?[ I don't think  the reply "As I mentioned you a couple of posts previously, you can also get the power

      consumption with the equations 5,6 or just equation 7." met our question. ]

==>Your reply still not met our question ,Change another word: our question is "detail  calculations Example for got 400mA and 484mA base on your reply mention 

"400mA and 484mA  can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet ) page 14 Equation 6.".  

(Still waiting your detail  calculations Example for got 400mA and 484mA base on your reply mention "400mA and 484mA  can calculated by TPA6211A1-Q1 spec.(datasheet )

page 14 Equation 6.)

Q9)According to your reply mention that "Vp=5.03V and Vp=6.08V" ,Would you explain  detail  calculations for got  "Vp=5.03V and Vp=6.08V" ?  

      ==>According to your reply that "Vp is selected according to the output voltage level that you are looking for your application."

             Would you explain detail   regarding "Vp=5.03V and Vp=6.08V"  base what's  application selected?

Q8)Waiting your update.

Because system have problem ,Therefore change to new post TPA6211A1-Q1: TPA6211A1-Q1: TPA6211A1-Q1 ,already.