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TAS5760M: Analog gain tolerance

Part Number: TAS5760M

Hi.

The output of the amplifier appears smaller than the calculated value.
Also, I checked the output of several amplifiers, but the output varies.

The following setting values:

・Serial Audio In: -6dB sine wave (1kHz)
・Digital Boost: +0dB
・Volume: +0.5dB
・Analog Gain Setting : 22.6dBV
・LC filter: L=15uH, C=1uF
・Load resistance: 6Ω


We believe that the above settings will output a voltage of 7.16Vrms.
Is this calculation correct?

When I measured several amplifiers, the output voltage was 6.3Vrms to 6.8Vrms.

1. What causes the output to be smaller than the calculated value?
2. What are the factors that cause the output to fluctuate?
3. What is the range of output variation?

If there are any other setting values you would like to know, please ask.

Best Regards,
S. Miura

  • Hi Mimura

    thanks for your question.

    it seems like clipping happened in your situation.

    what is your pvdd voltage?

    have you set any soft clipper in your circuit.(you can refer section 8.4.1.3 in the datasheet.)

    thanks.

    jesse

  • Hi jesse

    Thanks for your reply.

    PVDD is 24V.
    Soft clipper is not set.

    Below are the settings.

    SFT_CLIP Pin Voltage[V]: GVDD
    Resistor to GND [kΩ]: Open
    Resistor to GVDD [kΩ]: 0Ω

    THD+N is also less than 0.1%.

    Is there any other reason?

    Also, please answer the following.

    1. What causes the output to be smaller than the calculated value?
    2. What are the factors that cause the output to fluctuate?
    3. What is the range of output variation?

    Best Regards,
    S. Miura

  • Hi Miura

    Answers are as below:

    1. What causes the output to be smaller than the calculated value?

    usually, it should not have such big difference except the clipping.
    2. What are the factors that cause the output to fluctuate?

    i don't think your output fluctuate is because chip variance, it should be somewhere configuration has problem.
    3. What is the range of output variation?

    usually, output variation should be less than 0.5dB. you problem should not be caused by chip variation.

    can you share me you schematic, also if possible, the register value is also very helpful.

    thanks.

    jesse

  • Hi Jesse

    Thank you for your reply.

    1. What causes the output to be smaller than the calculated value?

     Usually, it should not have such a big difference except the clipping.

     ⇒Is my calculated value (7.16Vrms) correct?


    3. What is the range of output variation?

     Usually, output variation should be less than 0.5dB.

     ⇒Is the output variation of the TAS5760 within ±0.5dB?
      When I checked several additional boards, there were some that output 7.3Vrms or more.
      So I don't think it's a Clipper factor.


    I would like to send you the schematic and register settings, so can I email you directly?


    Best Regards,
    S. Miura

  • Hi Miura

    1. yes, your calculation is correct.

    2. you mean with same configuration, output of some other board is close with your calculation, some boards don't? 

    sure, you can send me directly by below email.

    jesse-ji@ti.com

    thanks.

    jesse

  • Hi jesse

    1. yes, your calculation is correct.

     ⇒If the variation is ±0.5dB, is the output range min 6.78V typ 7.16V max 7.58V?

    2. you mean with same configuration, output of some other board is close with your calculation, some boards don't?

     ⇒That's right. Overall, there is a tendency to be smaller than the calculated value, but one PCB was found to be larger than the calculated value.
      I just sent you an email with the results of measuring eight boards with the same circuit as a file with register settings and circuit diagrams.

    Please confirm.

    Best Regards,
    S. Miura

  • Hi Miura

    1. yes, you are correct.

    2. usually, the output should be smaller than the calculated value for the 0.5dB is kept for preventing overbit flow in the DSP.

    for we are not sure whether the clipping is happen or not, it seems like do have some setting in the digital clipper register setting.

    can we take a try reducing and increasing the digital volume to see how the output change?

    for example:

    when reducing to some level, the output be more close to calculated  value.

    or when increasing the digital gain, the output change be very smaller.

    thanks.

    jesse