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TPA3123D2 Popping question

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Hi everyone.

I have designed a 4x4 Audio Matrix with 4 x TPA3123D2 in the output stages.

I have a weird problem which I hope you can help me with.

As I said there are 4 of these amps on a board. (Call them channel 1 to 4). The MUTE and !SD signals are hooked up to a micro controller.

When the board powers up there is no pop at all from the speakers. The micro holds them in MUTE and SHUTDOWN during power up. In the following description, by shutdown I mean asserting !SD and by switching on/off I simply mean asserting/de-asserting the !SD signal. The VCC and PVCCL and PVCCR lines are always powered up.

When I turn the individual channels on (by de-asserting the shutdown signal) there is no pop when each channel turns on - except for channel 2 - which gives a kind of double-pop ("KUH-POP" type noise) as it comes out of shutdown, or goes into shutdown - but only the first couple of times. If you turn it on/off  few times the POP each time goes away after about 2 cycles and then the whole thing is lovely and quiet in operation, with great audio quality on all channels. What could be the cause of the POPPING on this one amp during it's first couple of shutdown cycles? 

While it is running nicely with no popping you can make channel 2 pop again by doing this:

Turn on channels 1 to 4. Then switch off channels 1, 3 and 4. Now switch off channel 2 and it will KUH-POP when it goes off and again when it comes on. The the whole thing will be nice an quiet again.

I have checked and replaced all the capacitors on VBYP and CLAMP - originally I had polarised electrolytics at 1uF - which I have now changed to tantalums - but it made no difference.

The PVCC and VCC lines are all common.

  • Hi, Kenny,

    Are you using them in SE or BTL configuration?

    -d2

  • Hi, Kenny,

    Did you see my response? We were having some issues with the e2e software...

    -d2

  • Hi Dan yes - these are in SE mode. I could not get my response posted to the forum last week. I have got rid of the popping completely - by not pulling up the /SD line to PVCC but using a soft-pullup in the microcontroller instead - the popping has completely gone now. However this has revealed another issue - one of the amp chips never shutsdown completely - the BYPASS capacitor never gets fully discharged and the VBYP stays around 0.4 V even when !SD is hard wired to GND. This causes the outputs to keep switching - but not at 50% duty cycle which would be OK, but with a tiny duty cycle which results in a constant whine from the speakers when the amp is supposed to be off :-( I've contacted support directly and they have suggested a few things which I am tryin out - but so far nothing seems to resolve this. I have many of these boards made and they all do the same thing. -K
  • Kenny,

    Duh, by "support directly" do you mean your PM to me? Sorry, I forgot about that....

    Are you sure you don't have leakage from RIN to BYPASS? If you have some flux or other gunk there, it might provide enough leakage to over-come the current source we use to discharge BYPASS...

    -d2

  • HI Don No sorry - I meant that I had raised a ticket at AskTI and was chatting with Hans-Jeurgen! I didn't mean to infer it was a PM to you at all. :-) I understand that if I PM anyone it is their perogative to reply or not. As for the switching issue. I'll open a new thread and post some details. Thanks again -Kenny