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RE: TPA3116D2 protection

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TPA3116D2, TPA3116D2EVM

We have the same problem with TPA3116D2. The amplifiers repeatedly go into protection (trip) with FAULTZ going low when certain audio tracks or sine waves of certain frequencies are being played.

First, we found this problem in our amplifier, and then went back to the evaluation kit. It was very easy to reproduce the problem on the evaluation kit.

The test setup is as follows:
TPA3116D2EVM 6525164 RevC evaluation kit;
A fan for the amp IC heatsink;
12-15V 15A power supply;
2 Ohm resistive loads x2;
Audio source (PC);
Oscilloscope.

Evaluation kit configuration: all jumpers are on except JP5 and JP6.

Oscilloscope is set to monitor 3 signals: input (blue trace), output (yellow) and FAULTZ (green). The FAULTZ signal was used to trigger the scope to see what happens when the amplifier is going into protection. The amplifier output being monitored is Right+ in relation to the ground.

   

Two screenshots are provided for two types of modulation: with JP7 On on the left and JP7 Off on the right.
The input here is a 15 kHz 2.5VP-P continuous sine wave. The supply voltage is stable 14.4V. The heatsink is cold to the touch. It's fastened securely.
The amplifier trips and restarts approximately every second.

We have found that the amplifier trips when high input frequencies (12-19 kHz) are being used. The higher the volume, the more is the probability of the fault.
The following screenshot shows how the amplifier trips with music instead of the sine wave. Apparently, the high frequency content causes the amplifier to trip:

Previously, we also observed the fault using 4 Ohm resistive loads, 4 Ohm speaker loads and no loads.

We have found that increasing the value of the capacitors C21, C22, C23, C24 increase the probability of the fault occurring. The stock value is 0.68uF, which is currently being used. We also tried up to 2.2uF to reduce conducted emissions which we had a problem with originally.

We suspected that the LC circuits L1+C21, L2+C22 etc. oscillate at their respective LC frequencies, and this is the cause of the failure. However, there is not enough evidence to support this hypothesis.

We can reproduce the problem from -5 deg C to +55 deg C. When using music, the higher the temperature, the less is the probability of the fault occurring.

This problem will have a direct impact on the user: as they increase the volume, the amplifier will start to cut out. This is a major issue for us. Does anyone know what is the root cause and how to deal with this?


  • Hi, Alexey,

    I will work with you on this issue. Can you please provide feedback to the following questions?

    1. This issue can be duplicated with EVM and 15KHz input signal? Does not need to use music to trip the faultz right?

    2. What is the current through the inductor (measured before LC filter) when the fault is tripped?

    3. Does this issue still happen when the LC caps are removed?

    4. Does it happen with 8R resistive load?

    5. When the faultz is tripped, are the volatges on PVDD, PWM outputs, BST pins looks normal? Need to observed each pins since OC is a global fault.

    6. BTL or PTBL?

    7. What is the PWM freq? AM pins settings. 

    reg,

    Paul.

  • Paul C. Chen said:
    1. This issue can be duplicated with EVM and 15KHz input signal? Does not need to use music to trip the faultz right?

    Correct.

    Paul C. Chen said:
    2. What is the current through the inductor (measured before LC filter) when the fault is tripped?

    5A peak

    Paul C. Chen said:
    3. Does this issue still happen when the LC caps are removed?

    Never tried it without the caps yet. We actually wanted to increase the caps to overcome our conducted emissions issue, but with anything bigger than 0.68uF (1uF, 1u5, 2u2), the evaluation kit starts tripping with 4 Ohm loads and even with no loads connected!

    Paul C. Chen said:
    4. Does it happen with 8R resistive load?

    Never tried.

    Paul C. Chen said:
    5. When the faultz is tripped, are the volatges on PVDD, PWM outputs, BST pins looks normal? Need to observed each pins since OC is a global fault.

    They all look normal.

    Paul C. Chen said:
    6. BTL or PTBL?

    BTL. As we are using 14.4V supply and will never go up to 21V, we thought 2 Ohm loads would work fine in BTL mode.

    Paul C. Chen said:
    7. What is the PWM freq? AM pins settings. 

    400 kHz. All AM pins low.

    Best regards,

    Alexey 

  • We have found out that increasing the switching frequency to 1000 or 1200 kHz prevents cut-outs. It also helps with reducing the conducted emissions, so it's a win-win solution. We will be using 1000 and 1200 kHz despite a slight penalty in efficiency.

  • Hi, Alexey, 

    That is good news. Does 1SPW mode help?

    reg,

    Paul.

  • Hi Paul,

    1SPW mode doesn't help. At 400, 500 or 600 kHz, the amplifier cuts out in either mode.

    Regards,

    Alexey