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OPA4134: DC Offset spec issue

Part Number: OPA4134

Hello!

Please help that we bought the OPA4134 part and the component was measured alone as follow to datasheet R1(10) AND R2(1K) signal gain will be 101.

then measured result did 381mV is it correct. test condition is +15V and -15V at 25dgree.

and double check help what is mean in datasheet "OFFSET VOLTAGE PRODUCTION DISTRIBUTION" of page 20?

Thanks, BR

  • Hello BR,

    The OPA4134 has a maximum specified voltage offset of +/-2 mV, at TA = 25C . With the noise gain set to +101 V/V, the output referred  voltage offset contribution from the maximum input offset would be 101(+/-2 mV), or +/-202 mV. Input bias current contributes to the output referred voltage offset as does CMRR, PSRR, etc, but their contribution would be very small compared to the input voltage offset. Thus, the 381 mV that you measured is high compared to the +/-202 mV maximum. TI would have tested the OPA4134 device at both probe and final tests to make sure that it meets the specified maximum input offset. Verify that the OPA4134 devices you have were obtained either from TI directly, or one of TI's authorized distributors. If they were obtained elsewhere they may not be actual OPA4134 product.

    I am not finding the Offset Voltage Production Distribution you reference on Page 20, but I do find Figure 21, Offset Voltage Production Distribution, in the datasheet. The graph provides information regarding the input voltage offset distribution obtained from testing many OPAx134 devices. The distribution shown is that of a normal, or Gaussian distribution. It reveals that the OPAx134 input voltage offset is centered at 0 uV, with most devices having an offset close to 0 uV. Then, as the offset moves away from 0 uV in either direction less and less devices have a higher offset magnitude. Very few devices have an offset as high  as the +/-2 mV maximum.

    Regards, Thomas

    Precision Amplifiers Applications Engineering

  • Hello!

    Thank you for your reply.

    I understood your comment, How I request analysis fake or not this parts from T.I? If Can T.I analysis How much cost and How long report time?

    if analysis result Fake, How to many have Fake parts In market?

    Please advice.

    Rigards, Richard.

  • Hi Richard,

    Where did you get these OPA4134 parts from? Did you order them directly from TI.com? You may order samples of this device from our online store and test them:

    http://www.ti.com/product/OPA4134/samplebuy

    -Tamara

  • Hello Richard,

    Unfortunately, TI cannot reveal product marking information details because product counterfeiters can use such information to mark their counterfeit products. It is common for counterfeit Op amps marked with a particular model number to function as an Op amp, but then not to achieve the electrical specifications of the authentic product. If your OPA4134 product was purchased directly from TI, or one of TI's authorized distributors, then it should comply with the electrical performances listed in the Op amp's datasheet Electrical Characteristics table.

    I would take Tamara's advice and order some OPA4134 samples from TI's online store and test them. When tested they should provide offset performance that complies with the datasheet specifications.

    Regards, Thomas

    Precision Amplifiers Applications Engineering

  • Hello, Thomas,

    We purchased fron from third party supplier marked on OPAMP (93FK5XK). +19year producte date, and I requested another + 19year Product date samples also all have mix bad part.

    The samples marked 93FK5XK on OPA4134 alone at 25 dgree DC offset test  resullt as below.

    1. 24mV

    2. 293mV

    3. 111mV

    4. 281mV

    5. 52mV

    6.314mV

     

     

  • Hello Gile,

    Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble with high offset.

    The OPA4134 device, even if manufactured in 1993, would have been precisely laser trimmed to minimize their voltage offset at the time of manufacture. The resistors are thin film metal resistors that are very stable; however, some changes in the resistances are expected over time due to normal aging.

    If the measured offset values listed are the output referred offset measured from your noise gain of +101 V/V circuit, then devices 2, 4 and 6 would exceed a +/-202 mV datasheet limit applicable to newly built and warrantied product. The 281 to 314 mV output offset would correlate to 2.78 to 3.1 mV input referred offset. That isn't too unbelievable for 26 year old product that has an unknown storage/handling history.

    If you are using the OPA4134 in the 14-pin SOIC package there are modern TI audio Op amps that will have lower voltage offset.

    Regards, Thomas

    Precision Amplifiers Applications Engineering