This thread has been locked.

If you have a related question, please click the "Ask a related question" button in the top right corner. The newly created question will be automatically linked to this question.

LMX2592: Questions about using LMX2592

Part Number: LMX2592
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: , LMX2595, LMX2594, LMX2572

Hello TI team,
I am planning to use the LMX2592 as a replacement for the Analog Devices HMC832 (PLL + integrated VCO) in an existing radio system. I would like to confirm the recommended usage for the OSC input, RF outputs, and the handling of pin 30.
 
1. Application background
- Existing device: HMC832 (PLL + integrated VCO)
- Replacement candidate: LMX2592
- One equipment uses 5 × LMX2592 devices.
- Each device output frequency is as follows:
  1) 353.7 MHz (fixed)
  2) 340.0 MHz (fixed)
  3) 1795–1995 MHz, or 1845–1945 MHz
  4) 1820–2020 MHz, or 1870–1970 MHz
  5) 1262.5 MHz (fixed)
 
I am currently designing the replacement PCB and need to decide how to connect the OSC input pins and RF outputs, and how to handle pin 30.
2. OSC input (reference clock) – single-ended use
In my design, I would like to use a single-ended reference clock to drive the OSC input.
However, in the LMX2592 datasheet (Rev.C) and in the LMX2592EVM schematic (SNAU195), the OSC inputs (OSCinP/OSCinM) are always shown as differential inputs. I could not find a clear description of single-ended operation for OSCin.

 

Q1. For single-ended operation, can I drive only one of the OSC input pins?
- For example: drive OSCinP with AC coupling, and leave OSCinM unused.
- Or, alternatively: drive OSCinM with AC coupling, and leave OSCinP unused.
- Is there any restriction that I must use P side (OSCinP) only, or can I use either P or M?

 

Q2. If I use only one OSC input pin (e.g., OSCinP) for a single-ended signal, what is the recommended treatment for the other pin (OSCinM)?
- Is it acceptable to leave OSCinM open (no connection)?
- Or should OSCinM be AC-coupled to GND (for example, via a capacitor to create an AC ground)?
- Is there any official recommendation or application note for using LMX2592 with a single-ended reference clock?

 

If there is a recommended example circuit (even from a similar device family like LMX2594/LMX2595/LMX2572), I would appreciate a reference.

 

3. RF outputs (RFoutA / RFoutB) and single-ended use

 

In my application, for each LMX2592 device, I will use only one RF output path (either RFoutA or RFoutB). I plan to use this RF output as a single-ended signal.

 

Q3. Is there any performance difference between RFoutA and RFoutB?
For example, in terms of:
- usable frequency range,
- output power range,
- phase noise,
- spurious performance, etc.

 

Or can I treat RFoutA and RFoutB as functionally equivalent, and simply choose one of them based on PCB layout convenience?

 

Q4. For the RF output path that I do not use (for example, RFoutB), is the following procedure correct?
- Disable RFoutB by register setting (power-down / output disable), and
- Leave the RFoutB pins (RFoutBP, RFoutBM) unconnected on the PCB.

 

Is this the recommended way to treat the unused RF output channel?

 

4. Single-ended RF output from differential pins

 

When I use RFoutA (or RFoutB), I would like to use single-ended output from the differential pair.

 

Q5. For single-ended RF output, can I use either RFoutAP or RFoutAM (or RFoutBP / RFoutBM)?
- For example, is it acceptable to use RFoutAP → AC-coupling capacitor → 50 ohm trace, and leave RFoutAM unused?
- Or can I use RFoutAM instead in the same way?

 

If there is a recommended choice (for example, “use P side for single-ended output”), please let me know.

 

Q6. For the other side of the differential pair (e.g., RFoutAM when I use RFoutAP as single-ended output), what is the recommended treatment?
- Is it acceptable to leave the unused RF pin open (no connection)?
- Or should it be terminated in some way (for example, AC-grounded or 50 ohm termination)?

 

If there is an official recommendation or application note for using LMX2592 RF outputs in single-ended mode, please let me know.

 

5. Pin 30 handling (NC vs 680 ohm to GND on EVM)

 

Regarding pin 30, I see a discrepancy between the LMX2592EVM schematic and the latest datasheet.

 

- In the LMX2592EVM schematic (SNAU195), pin 30 is connected to GND through 680 ohm.
- In the LMX2592 datasheet Rev.C, pin 30 is marked as NC (No Connect).

 

Q7. For new designs, what is the correct and recommended treatment for pin 30?
- Is it safe and recommended to leave pin 30 unconnected on the PCB (no trace, no pull-down resistor), following the datasheet Rev.C (NC)?
- Or should we follow the EVM schematic (680 ohm to GND)?

 

In other words, for a new design using the latest LMX2592 silicon and datasheet Rev.C, is “leave pin 30 floating (no connection)” the correct implementation?

 

6. References

 

- LMX2592 datasheet (Rev.C)
- LMX2592EVM User’s Guide: SNAU195

 

If there are any updated documents or application notes that describe:
- single-ended OSC input usage, and/or
- single-ended RF output usage
for LMX2592, I would be very grateful if you could point me to them.

 

Thank you very much in advance for your support.

 

Best regards,
Ryusuke
  • Hi There,

    OSC input

    What is your clock format and amplitude?

    RF output

    There is no performance difference between RFoutA and RFoutB, you can use either one.

    The unused output can be programmed to power down, the pins can be left floating.

    If only one of the output pins is used, the unused pin still need pull-up and termination. P and M pin has not performance difference except they are out of phase.

    Pin 30

    there is no physical connection inside the chip, you can leave this pin floating, short to ground directly or via a resistor.

  • Hi Noel,

    Thank you for your reply.

    They using a 10 MHz OCXO as a reference, PLL (ADF4111) +VCO generates 300 MHz.
    1: 353.7 MHz (fixed)
    2: 340.0 MHz (fixed)
    5: 1262.5 MHz (fixed)
    are distributed and amplified and fed by Sine waves.

    DDS generates a 30 MHz band signal for the above signal.
    3: 1795~1995 MHz or 1845~1945 MHz
    4: 1820~2020 MHz or 1870~1970 MHz
    and is supplied by Sine wave.

    Amplitude

    →I don't know how to answer.

    DC cut capacitor is inserted at the output of the supply source and the input of the LMX2592.

    Best Regards,

    Ryusuke

  • Hi Fukunaga-san,

    For single-ended input, the schematic is like this: