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LMK04616: LMK04616ZCRT

Part Number: LMK04616

Hi to TI team

I have question about propagation delay at LMK04616ZCRT clock distrabuter.

According TI help desk, the propagation delay between OSCin to CLKout at zero-delay is ~8nS, but the clock phase between those pins is ~0nS.

My questuion: Is the timing is the same when the input reference clock connect to CLKin0 instead of OSCin?

Thanks

Moti Cohen

DSIT

  • Hello Moti,

    I reviewed the data, and we don't have specific numbers for zero-delay using CLKin0 instead of OSCin for the PLL2 zero-delay setup. However, we do know the difference in CLKin-to-CLKout and OSCin-to-CLKout propagation delay when in distribution mode. Since the only difference between CLKin/OSCin delay is in the path leading up to the source selection mux for downstream circuitry, the delay difference should be representative of the difference when PLL2 is used.

    OSCin-to-CLKout propagation delay is around 3.35ns at nominal PVT, whereas CLKin-to-CLKout propagation delay is around 2.25ns at nominal PVT. So my expectation is that the CLKin to CLKout propagation delay would be about 1ns less than OSCin-to-CLKout propagation delay.

    Regards,

  • Dear Derek

    When using Zero-Delay mode (PLL2 only), does it related to OSCin or CLKin?

    Regards,

    Moti Cohen

    DSIT

  • Hi Moti,

    You can use the PLL2_GLOBAL_BYP register (0x6C[0]) to choose whether the input reference is selected from CLKinX or OSCin. Either option is available for using zero delay mode with PLL2 only.

    Regards,

  • Hi Derek

    Thank you for your quick answer.

    If I understand your answer correctly, the zero-delay relat to the selected input clock.

    So, if I select CLKinX or OSCin, at zero-delay the phase between the selected input clock and output clock will be near 0nS.

    Is it true?

    Regards

    Moti Cohen

    DSIT

  • Hi Moti,

    That is the idea, yes. In principle, at zero-delay the phase between the selected input clock and output clock will be near 0ns. In practice, there are some differences in the input buffer structure, the output buffer structure, and some of the divider structure which cause the actual phase offset to be slightly off from 0ns; but it is tuned to be close to 0ns.

    It is also important to note that the phase between the input and output clocks is measured at the phase detector. This means that if the R-divider and N-divider are used (that is, if the phase detector is lower frequency than the input), then there will be R potential phases that could exist between input and output clock. So for example, with 122.88MHz input, 122.88MHz output, and 61.44MHz phase detector, there could be two possible phases that are valid (0° and 180°). Normally during the startup procedure, the R-divider, N-divider, and output dividers are all synchronized so that the phase alignment between input and output is set at 0°. But it is possible for the phase offset to be different, like if the reference input clock is missing for a few cycles and the PLL loses lock.

    Regards,

  • Hi Derek

    Thank you for your explanation.

    As I understand, you answered my question.

    Regards

    Moti Cohen

    DSIT - ISRAEL