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ADS1278-HT: Driving the ADC with a low bandwidth op amp - opa2333-HT

Part Number: ADS1278-HT
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: OPA2333-HT, , ADS1278, OPA2333

I have a very low frequency application (0-8Hz) but my understanding is that for delta-sigma converters any input signal is over sampled at a rate related to the clock input. Thus even for low frequency applications the actual sample speed can be quite high.

The issue i have is for DC performance and PCB space reasons i'd like to use a OPA2333-HT to drive the ADC, great DC specs but its bandwidth is only 350kHz.

But if my clock is 1Mhz and i set the clkdiv to "1" ie divide by 40 my assumption is the switched capacitors are on the inputs are switching at 1Mhz/40 = 25Khz thus the OPA2333-HT would be a suitable op amp to drive the ADS1278-HT? Could somebody at TI confirm?

also what are the pros and cons of the /40 and /8 clkdiv settings for low speed mode?

Note: i'm running in frame sync mode with two ADCs daisy-chained together (16 channels) in TDM mode, the frame sync period is 400Hz, its a high temp application (160 degrees Celsius) so i'm limited in op amp choice

kind regards

Martin

  • Hi Martin,

    We could look into this detail for you.  You are correct, the low bandwidth of the OPA2333-HT could potentially be a limitation; however, as you have mentioned, since you are setting the ADS1278 with fclk=1-MHz, in the Low-Speed mode with a lower modulator frequency of  fmod=1-MHz/40, this may be possible. I will need to verify this on simulation.

    Per your post on the ADC forum, it appears you require operation at +165-C, hence you require the High Temp grade devices.  

    Is the OPA2333 set-up in buffer, or gain configuration, or inverting configuration?  What voltage supplies, the input voltage common-mode requirement, input signal amplitude, and what reference voltage is used for the ADS1278? Is the input signal a DC or AC signal? if AC, what is the frequency range?  If you have a preliminary schematic showing the OPA2333-HT circuit, this would be helpful and we could look into this, verify that the circuit works, and optimize the RC filter between the OPA2333-HT and ADS1278-HT.

    Thank you and Kind Regards,

    Luis 

  • HI Martin,

    When using the device in Low-Speed mode, with fclk=1-MHz, the output data rate is Data Rate (SPS)=1-MHz/2560=~390SPS (per table 10 of the datasheet). The normalized frequency response of the digital filter scales with the modulator frequency.  Looking at Figure 55, if the device is used with fclock=1-MHz, in low-speed mode, with clk-div-1, the output data rate is 390-Hz, and the BW of  the digital filter is approximately ~(0.453)*(390Hz) or 176-Hz.

    The trade-off between using CLKDIV = 1 and CLKDIV=0 is in the speed and input impedance of the device as shown on table 9, table 10 and figure 66.  When using low speed with clk-div=1, the modulator samples at a slower frequency of fmod=fclk/40, providing a higher input impedance.  The relation between the average or effective input impedance and modulator frequency is given on figure 66.   

    Thank you and Regards,

    Luis

     

  • Hi Luis

    Many thanks for your prompt reply and drawing my attention to the input impedance trade off.

    I'm also interested in confirming the suitability of a using a low bandwidth op amp OPA2333-HT (this is a high temperature application) with the ADS1278-HT if Fmod is a relatively low speed

    so essentially my questions are

    1) are the switched capacitors on the input toggling at 25Khz (ie fclk/40)?

    2) if this is the case is the 350kHz OPA2333-HT a suitable driver for the ADC?

    Note: i plan on having AINN tied to a buffed Vcom, AINP will be a 0-5V signal centred around 2.5V driven by the OPA2333-HT. 

    Kind Regards

    Martin

  • Hi Luis

    Sorry just noticed you've also replied to the question in the op amp forum, so thanks for your answers above and i'll reply i n the op amp forum

    https://e2e.ti.com/support/amplifiers/f/14/t/870181

    kind regards

    martin