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DP83867IR: TIDA-00204: Layout RGMII Signals

Part Number: DP83867IR
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TIDA-00204

Dear team,

My customer is evaluating the DP83867IR on their board. When they checked the trace lengths of RGMII signals between the DP83867IR and MAC, it was around 151 mm. 

The datasheet of DP83867IR, in page 122, describes as follows,
     9.2.2.1.1 RGMII Layout Guidelines
          - Keep trace lengths as short as possible; less than 2 inches (50.8 mm) is recommended with less than 6 inches (152.4 mm) as maximum length.

And the TIDA-00204, in page 69, describes as follows,
     6.4.2 Layout RGMII Signals
          - The RGMII interface is a 125-MHz signal, which gives a full clock cycle of 8 ns.
          - The typical propagation delay in a FR4 stripline is 7.087 ns/mm ps/mm, which means that the length of the RGMII interface introduces a delay that should be kept as small as possible. For the RGMII signal below 0.5 ns, this should be a delay that can be ignored. So the signal can be around 63.5-mm long, maximum.

About the description of "For the RGMII signal below 0.5 ns, this should be a delay that can be ignored.", what is the basis for this ignorable 0.5 ns delay?
Is it a percentage of the RGMII signal period of 8 ns?
Is it based on any register setting of DP83867IR?

I look forward to your reply.
Thank you.

Best Regards,

Koshi Ninomiya

  • Hello Koshi-san,

    For Rgmii the important spec is the skew between clock and other Rgmii signals on the board. That should be less than 200ps (according to spec) but board design target should be to be minimize this further to give more margin to MAC and PHY interface. Length mismatch of the Rgmii traces decide this spec and not the actual length.

    Actual length only plays role in the loading of MAC and PHY IOs. There is a total loading spec of 5pF (according to standard) on these IOs and long traces may take away most of this load spec. Extra loading will make signal slower and impact signal integrity. Hence the recommendation in datasheet is to keep length of traces to reasonable length to overloading the lines.

    I am not sure about the origin of thumb rule mentioned in the TIDA document, but I hope above guidelines/specs will help you understanding board constraints.

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    Regards,

    Vikram