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SN65MLVD203: Glitch on low frequency transitions

Part Number: SN65MLVD203
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: MLVD20XEVM

Hi, I'm seeing a small (~10-20 ns) additional output pulse when transitioning from high-to-low or low-to-high with the SN65MLVD203 transmitter and receiver used as a pair. The setup is one SN65MLVD203 configured as a transmitter over ~6 ft of HDMI cable to another SN65MLVD203 configured as a receiver. Both transmitter and receiver have 100 ohms of differential termination resistance (for a total of 50 ohms). The transmitter is provided a 0 to 3.3 V logic input from a function generator that is source terminated at 50 ohms with an SMA cable. The receiver output drives an oscilloscope with an SMA cable and is source terminated at approximately 50 ohms. Both components are powered from 3.3 V and bypassed with 0.1 uF and 10 uF of capacitance. The 0.1 uF capacitor was adjusted to 0.001 uF and 0.01 uF with no change in behavior.

The issue is ONLY observed when transitioning below frequencies of ~25 kHz. At higher frequencies (up to 100 MHz), the extra pulse is not seen. I've identified a ~250 mV, 25 MHz common-mode oscillation on the output of the LVDS transmitter that develops across the 100 ohm resistor(s). It's like a small AC waveform riding on the digital logic voltage that the LVDS receiver will detect for transitions. This oscillation is present with or without the HDMI cable connected to the transmitter. The oscillation is not present immediately after the transmitter transitions logic states, but then builds up over a period of about 4 us . If the part is switched prior to the build-up of LVDS common-mode voltage oscillation, the glitched pulse is not detected as the transmitter oscillation has not built up and caused the receiver to detect the quick, extra transition. If the part is switched after 4 us has occurred, the oscillation rides the transitioning voltage across the receiver input and may trigger the extra 10 ns pulse at the receiver output. It is intermittent, disappears briefly after the transmitter transitions states, and is dependent on the exact phase relationship between the function generator transition and oscillating waveform phase.

I've compared the layout of my custom board to the layout of the TI reference design. Both boards have similar stack-ups and differential trace routing. One possible difference is the location of the bypass capacitor. The reference design has the bypass capacitor across the back of the chip and connected to GND and VCC with vias. My board features the capacitor off to the side of the chip.  

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

  • Carl,

    Can you provide waveforms?

    Regards,

    I.K. 

  • Hi I.K., thanks for responding. Please see the below illustration of the issue. 

    If anything is not clear, please let me know. Thanks.

    Carl

  • I wanted to also provide you a clip of the schematic. The transmitter and receiver output/input is tied together with a short differential trace and their function is controlled with a pull-up/down.

  • Hi Carl,

    I'm going to see if I can recreate this in lab today, will you keep you posted.

    Regards,

    I.K. 

  • Hi Carl,

    I'm not seeing this behavior on the bench:

    This is with the MLVD20XEVM and the MLVD203 driver output looped back to the receiver input, and two 100-ohm termination resistors. Green is the receiver output and blue/pink is the differential signal. I also tried setting up the scope to trigger on a glitch, but the scope never triggered.

    Regards,

    I.K.

  • Okay, thanks for checking it out. The traces you show are much cleaner with no real discernable common-mode noise.

    I received the MLVD20XEVM yesterday and it works fine with my power supply and the default installed chips. Next step is to transplant a x203 chip from my custom board onto the MLVD20EXVM to rule out a chip issue. I have four SN65MLVD203's on two different boards and they all exhibit this behavior.

    My current suspicion at this point, however, is some incompatibility between the x203 and my custom board layout. I tacked a 0.0047 uF right across the top of the chip and it made no difference. I'm going to try a x202A on my board to see if the slower chip might be more compatible with the layout. 

    I'll reply with an update once I have it. Thanks again for your efforts.

    Carl

  • Hi I.K., 

    The issue was an an incorrect component populated on the board in-place of a termination resistor. The vendor installed a capacitor in place of the termination resistor on the transmitter side. This led to the incorrect behavior. After replacing the component, my waveforms match yours. Appreciate your assistance and willingness to check things out on your end.

    Regards,

    Carl

  • Hi Carl,

    That's great, glad you were able to resolve the issue. Thank you for reporting what the root cause was as well.

    Regards,

    I.K.