This thread has been locked.

If you have a related question, please click the "Ask a related question" button in the top right corner. The newly created question will be automatically linked to this question.

SN74AHC125: Vol maximums at 3.3V Vcc

Part Number: SN74AHC125

I have a customer with BAE Systems asking about the maximum Vol they would see if the device loading was 6mA with 3.3 Vcc. This would be over the entire temperature range of the part. There are no charts or specifications showing this, so I told the customer that any values that you would state would not be specified. The question is whether or not you have tested this in the lab. Please let me know if you have any information that I can share with the customer.

Thanks for your help with this!

Richard Elmquist

  • Hi Richard,

    We do not have test data to show that particular data point, however it is fairly easy to specify a maximum using the datasheet specs. There are a few different ways to calculate intermediate VOL's, but I prefer to stick with the easiest and safest method.

    We can get the closest value on the datasheet and use that to calculate an ron, then use that calculated ron to determine the output drop.

    In this case, the math is really easy -- the datasheet shows VOL at 3V (~3.3V supply -10%) with an output current of 4 mA. 6 mA is a 50% increase in current, and the operating voltage remains in the same range, so I would also expect a worst-case 50% increase in VOL, giving an output voltage of 0.44*1.5 = 0.66 V.

    To double check this, let's get the ron as I mentioned above.

    ron = VOL / IOL = 3 / 0.004 = 110 Ω

    Using that value to get our new VOL:

    VOL = IOL * ron = 0.006 * 110 Ω = 0.66 V

    You can quickly calculate the power consumed in the FET with P = I2R = 3.96 mW, just to get an idea of the power dissipation (4 mW isn't a concern)

    So, that's the simplest method of getting the VOL, and the estimation is extremely safe -- ie there's a lot of headroom since the operating voltage is increased over the datasheet spec, which means ron will be decreasing, also the output current isn't a huge increase, so there should be no thermal effects on the output FETs.

    I could test the in the lab, but I have no way of testing every variation of PVT. Using the datasheet specs to estimate is the safest solution.

  • Emrys,
    Thanks so much for your quick response!
    Have a great day!
    Richard Elmquist
  • Always happy to help - come back any time :)