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TPS1663: TPS16630PWPT

Part Number: TPS1663
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TPS27S100, TPS1H100-Q1

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I am using an E-Fuse (TPS16630PWPT) in a new project, and encountering some unexpected behavior.
I am turning an external resistive load on and off with a isolated solid state switch consisting of two FETs.

Image 2 and 3.
Turn on is OK, but when the current is switched off, the E-Fuse does not remain on as expected.
Instead, the E-Fuse fault line becomes active for about 2us. Then the E-Fuse switches off with the output dropping to 0V for approximately 200ns.
Afterwards, the E-Fuse recovers and stays on for about 3us before the output starts to ring and eventually drops back down to 0V and begins a new dv/dt start up cycle.


It looks like the wiring inductance in the test setup is affecting the E-Fuse in a negative way. Is the E-Fuse meant strictly to be used to power circuits on a PCB only?


Image 1 is a section of my schematic diagram and shows how the E-Fuse is configured.

There is also a schematic showing the resistive load connected to the output of the E-Fuse and the FET switch.

There is approximately 8-10ft of wire connecting the entire circuit loop.

a. Input voltage range is 20V – 40V. Nominal is 28V.
b. Current limit is set for 3.6A
c. Startup dv/dt is 41.6ms - 83.2ms. Nominal is 58.2ms.
d. No Auto retry

e. Load resistance is 11 ohms
f. 0.022uf load capacitance

Image 2 shows four scope traces
a. Yellow is E-Fuse fault line
b. Blue is E-Fuse output voltage
c. Green is load current 2A
d. Red is E-Fuse input voltage

Image 3 shows the same scope traces expanded at the point where current is interrupted and shuts off
a. Yellow is E-Fuse fault line
b. Blue is E-Fuse output voltage
c. Green is load current 2A
d. Red is E-Fuse input voltage

  • Hi Walter,

    Thanks for reaching out.

    The output inductance due to wire harness is creating negative swing at the output of the eFuse and resetting it. Ideally smart High side switch is suitable here.

    Is the behavior fine with pure resistive load?

    A low VF Schottky Diode and ceramic capacitor right at the output of the eFuse would help to an extent.

    Best regards 

    Rakesh 

  • Rakesh,

     The scope plots I sent may a bit misleading because the E-Fuse output is not going negative. 

     Performed a few tests to reduce the inductive effect.

    1. Simplified the test setup and reduced the wiring length significantly. This had the effect of cleaning the signals up, but the E-Fuse continued to restart.
    2. Changed the 11 ohm load to 150 ohms. The E-Fuse no longer restarts.
    3. Put back the 11 ohm load and placed 100uf at the output. The E-Fuse no longer restarts.
    4. Changed 100uf to 10uf. E-Fuse output voltage drops linearly by a couple of volts over 100ms, but E-Fuse no longer restarts.

     Adding more capacitance at the E-Fuse output may be a solution, but please tell me more about the high side switch you mentioned.

     Thank you,

     Walter

  • Hi Walter,

    Good to know that it helped. Please refer application note https://www.ti.com/lit/an/slvae30e/slvae30e.pdf on how Smart high side switch can drive off-board loads or loads introducing path inductance.

    Please let us know max voltage and max load current to suggest device.

    Best Regards

    Rakesh

  • Rakesh,

    I would appreciate any suggestions.

    Max voltage is 40V and max current is 3A.

    Thanks,

    Walter

  • Hi Walter,

    I have assigned this thread to appropriate engineer to suggest suitable Smart high side switch device. He will get back to you soon.

    Best Regards

    Rakesh

  • Hi Walter,

    For 40V applications in the industrial spaces, I would recommend looking at TPS27S100: https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tps27s100.pdf 

    This is the industrial variant of TPS1H100-Q1. Please note that the output inductance capabilities between the two are very similar:

    Thanks,

    Shreyas