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LM5069: GATE pin below GND

Part Number: LM5069

TIMER pin and GATE pin fall below ground as VIN drops below 6V when switching on large capacitive load - approx. 880uF.  This event occurs approx. 250ms after the LM5069 switches on initial load of 22uF.

Scope1_zoomout.png and Scope2_zoomout.bmp provides an overview of timing.  Scope1_zoomin4msres.png provides 4ms resolution of large capacitive load switching.  Scope2_zoomin2msres.bmp provides 2.5ms resolution of large capacitive load switching - showing charging of actual load and LM5069 PGD pin.

Scope1_zoomin4usres.png provides 4us of large capacitive load switching.  VIN pin drops below 6V triggering UVLO and POR thresholds. OUT and GATE pins drop >10V below GND.  Timer pin drops >4V below GND.  PGD drives low.

Protection circuit schematic.png includes the schematic.  Design includes provisions detailed in TI SLVUAA1–September 2014 document.  

Note that testing is conducted with a bench supply.  The output of the supply is switched on and off - not hot plugging.

Please explain why GATE and Timer pins drop below GND and how do we prevent this.  Note that the circuit  eventually recovers and the capacitive load does come up.

Scope1 legend:

Ch1 LM5069 VIN pin - 12V,

Ch2 LM5069 Timer pin

Ch3 LM5069 Out pin

Ch4 LM5069 Gate pin

Scope 2 legend:

Ch1 LM5069 VIN pin - 12V,

Ch2 LM5069 PGD pin

Ch3 LM5069 UUT V_MAIN

  • Hi Rene,

    Thanks for reaching out!

    Is 880uF load placed on adjacent board and introduces path impedance at the output. ? When you switch on to 880uF, it acts as short circuit to LM5069 due to uncharged capacitive load and turns-off abruptly. This event swings the output node towards negative due to path inductance. 

    Please add schottky diode at the output and you need to have inrush current control on to 880uF as well.

    Attached file provides more details 

    schottky diode at Vout.pdf

    Best Regards

    Rakesh

  • Rakesh,

    Thanks for the quick response.  The 880uF capacitance is on the same board isolated by some FETs.

    I am curious why I do not see another insertion time out period since I believe the POR voltage threshold has been met.

    Rene

  • Hi Rene,

    I see ringing (for short interval 2us) on the supply voltage but the average is above POR threshold voltage. So, I think the internal LDO of LOM5069 is holding the voltage and not resetting the device.

    You mentioned that 880uF are isolated by FETs. Can you manage inrush current to those caps with slew-control on the FETs like shown below

    https://www.ti.com/lit/an/slva862a/slva862a.pdf 

    Best Regards

    Rakesh