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BQ77207: I am building a UUV, and I need help understanding how to integrate this part with my design

Part Number: BQ77207
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: BQ7718

I am a student designing a UUV, and I am uncertain how to integrate the BQ77207 with my LiPo 5450 6S 22.2v Battery Pack. This is my first time doing power management. The datasheet, Table10-1, gives the values for Rin, Cin, Rvd, and Cvd. However, Figure 10-3. is showing an Active High 6V option. What does this mean? Can I use this configuration? And can I use a fuse instead of the back-to-back fets? Will I still need the Routs if I use a fuse? If I do use the Fets, how do I know the specifications for them? Is this the correct battery management IC for my project?

  • Hi Camille,

    In response to each of your questions:

    • What do Rin, Cin, Rvd, and Cvd mean?
    • What is the Active High 6V option?
      • This is referring to Cout and Dout.  Active high means that when the Cout or Dout pins are ON, they will output a HIGH voltage.  In this case, that is 6 V.  This 6 V will be applied to the gate of the N-MOSFET corresponding to the pin, turning on the MOSFET and either blowing a fuse or opening protection MOSFETs.
    • And can I use a fuse instead of the back-to-back fets?
      • You can use a FUSE or FETs.  It depends on your system needs. 
      • FETs should be used when you want to recover a fault.  Here's an example: voltage gets too high, and an OV (overvoltage) fault triggers.  The COUT pin will output a HIGH signal (6 V) and close the NFET, thus opening the charge protection PFET.  This will prevent the battery pack from charging and prevent voltage from increasing.  Once the OV fault is cleared, the COUT pin will stop sending a HIGH signal, and the charge protection PFET will close again, allowing charging current to flow.
      • A FUSE should be used if you don't want to recover the fault.  Once the fuse blows due to a fault, you will have to replace the fuse before the circuit will function again.  Usually, a FUSE is used for secondary protection.
    • Will I still need the Routs if I use a fuse?
    • If I do use the Fets, how do I know the specifications for them?
      • If you want to use the MOSFETs, you will find specs and performance information about them on the MOSFET's datasheet.  The BQ77207 EVMUG has a schematic showing an implementation of the BQ77207 with a BOM showing components.  I will link the EVMUG here: BQ77207EVM User's Guide (ti.com).
    • Is this the correct battery management IC for my project?
      • I cannot give you a definitive answer since I do not know all the details of your project, but the BQ77207 is designed to protect up to 7S cells (38.5 V), and you will be using a 6S configuration (22.2 V), so you are within the voltage specs of the part.  

    Best,

    Andria

  • Hi Andria,

    Thank you for this very thorough answer. I have some follow-ups. The EVM User guide is a helpful resource, but the Cout and Dout Pins are not configured to a fuse or MOSFET protection, so it did not answer my question about the specifications for the MOSFETS.

    What is the values for the  QDSG and the QCHG? I see they are P-MOSFETS, but what parts should I use for them? What is a good value for Roff ,RDout,RCout? The NMOSes on Dout and Cout, what should their values be? 

  • Hello Camille,

    When selecting the QDSG and QCHG MOSFETs, you will need to consider the load current for your specific system, therefore I cannot recommend any particular part for you. I do recommend paying attention the PFET's Rdson, though.  This spec is important for minimizing power dissipation over the FETs during normal operation.

    For the NFETs, I recommend you take a look at this reference design: bq7718: Stacked bq7718 Secondary Protection Reference Design for 60-V/15-S Industrial Battery Packs.  The BQ7718 has the same voltage output levels as the BQ77207.

    Additionally, the various resistor values you requested are specific to your system needs and selected FETs.  You will have to do your own individual research to learn about implementing FETs into a system and selecting correct resistor values.  To help you in this process, I recommend looking through this document: MOSFET Support and Training Tools (Rev. A) (ti.com) and this forum post: (+) How to Select a MOSFET – Basic Cross Referencing - Power management - Technical articles - TI E2E support forums.

    Unfortunately, I am not able to design your system for you, as many of the values you requested are relevant to your specific system's design, not the BQ77207's specifications.  Best of luck with your research and BMS implementation!

    Best,

    Andria