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BQ76942: BQ76942 cell voltage disconnection test

Part Number: BQ76942
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: BQ76952

Hi

The customer design with BQ76942. They do the cell voltage disconnecting test.

Question 1: The sampling circuit of Cell 1 and Cell 3 is disconnected, and the voltage fluctuation is inconsistent with the voltage fluctuation of Cell 2/4/5. Why does the voltage have such abnormal changes? What is the change of disconnection voltage? The following is the data of VC1 and VC3 disconnection.

 VC1 disconnection

 VC3 disconnection

 VC1 disconnection Cell 1 and Cell 2 voltage change

 VC3 disconnection Cell 3 and Cell 4 voltage change

Question 2: How to collect the cell voltage after the disconnection? How to analyze and calculate the current cell voltage? (balance is not enabled)

Thanks

Star

  • Hello Star,

    The BQ76952 has an open-wire feature to protect the pack in case of a broken cell connection between a cell in the pack and the BQ76952.

    A small current source operates in periodic intervals between each cell and Vss in order to check for this. This will cause changes in the voltages of the disconnected cell and the cell above it. Albeit for a different device, you I described how the voltages get affected when an open-wire scenario occurs in the following e2e thread:

     (+) BQ77216: BQ77216 Open wire operation - Power management forum - Power management - TI E2E support forums

    That thread may be useful in understanding how the voltages are affected.

    For the BQ76952, the functioning would be different however, there is no direct open-wire fault or alert, instead, the disconnected cell will drop in voltage and eventually trigger a Cell Undervoltage protection fault on that particular cell, as well as a Cell Overvoltage protection fault on the cell above it. These would show in your cell measurements. You can read how the open-wire feature functions in detail and how to configure open-wire in Section 5.3.24 Cell Open Wire of the Technical Reference Manual.

    The section also describes how to disable open-wire protection completely if not desired.

    Hope this helped Slight smile

    Best Regards,

    Luis Hernandez Salomon

  • Hi Luis Hernandez Salomon

    Thanks for your help.

    When VC1 and VC3 are disconnected, The voltage in the previous series is reduced several hundred mV compared with the normal voltage.

    I want to know how to calculate the voltage change.

    Thanks

    Star

  • Hello Star,

    I just want to ask, are the cells themselves being disconnected? Or just the connection to the IC?

    Are you disconnecting VC1 and VC3 at the same time?

    We do not have a sure-way to calculate the voltage change. 

    The e2e I shared gives an example of how the voltage is expected to change when a cell is disconnected.

    Best Regards,

    Luis Hernandez Salomon

  • Hi Luis Hernandez Salomon

    Thanks for your reply.

    The cell disconnection of other series is consistent. The disconnection of VC1 is different from the others. I have removed the ambient components of VC1.

    I want to know whether the IC internal circuit of VC1 is inconsistent?

    Waiting for your reply.

    Thanks

    Star

  • Hello Star,

    For proper operation of the device Cell 1 needs to always be connected. It is possible that because it is not connected, the device is not displaying the proper values.

    I cannot say exactly how it behaves when it is removed. But this may be why disconnecting it is different from the others. 

    Can you clarify what you mean by "remove ambient components?"

    Best Regards,

    Luis Hernandez Salomon

  • Hi Luis Hernandez Salomon

    Thanks for your reply.

    I want to know why the cell 1 need to always be connected?

    Thanks

    Star

  • Hello Star,

    I am not exactly sure the behavior of the device if left unconnected, however, the device was designed to have the cell 1, cell 2 and cell 16 inputs always connected. Some things may not function properly otherwise, I would not be able to say what.

    However, I just tested with my board the cell 1/cell2 voltage by applying an open-wire condition on cell 1. The Cell 1 voltage drooped while cell 2 voltage increased, which is what I expected. Looking at your data, this seems consistent in removing cell 1 or cell 3. So, it seems to me that the open-wire function is working as intended.

    Best Regards,

    Luis Hernandez Salomon